PCGS sub 2022 - Guess the Grade (Part 4 of 5)

Part 1 to 3 were revealed; you can see the threads here:
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/pcgs-sub-2022-guess-the-grade-part-1-of-5.395475/

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/pcgs-sub-2022-guess-the-grade-part-2-of-5.395513/

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/pcgs-sub-2022-guess-the-grade-part-3-of-5.395542/

Continuing onwards, here is part 4 of 5.

Please guess the original grade and the new grade (originally NGC and now PCGS). Are they the same or different?

Here I am including two photos (a PCGS TrueView and the photos from Great Collections in the original holder).

 

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@ifthevamzarockin you're not seeing double (or triple); it is another 1890-O

 

Here we go...63/64...a blind guess.

 

Another very pretty coin!
I am a fan of the darker deep rich colors.

MS-64
MS-64

 

double 63 to me

 

Tough one! I'll go NGC MS-63 mint error struck through reverse no star. PCGS MS-63 Struck Through Wire. If it's not a strike through, then it's details.

 

NGC 63 no star
PCGS MS 63
Attractively toned. I am not sure if the right wing of the Eagle is a strike through, or damage to the coin. I would bet on mint error.

 

64/63*

 

MS63* unless details
OBV MS64*
REV MS63 unless details

PCGS MS63
NGC MS63

 

NGC- MS62
PCGS- MS63

 

NGC MS63
The fingerprint held them back.
PCGS MS64

 

I looked at it again. I am pretty sure that the eagle’s wing is a strike-through mint error, so I think we are right, in the 63 to 64 range. If it is post-mint, then we are all wrong, and it would be a MS details coin.

 

63 64 either way. I love Morgan's graded or not!

 

MS-63 on both

 

Reveal soon...

 

NGC MS 63
PCGS MS 63

....neither company had mint error on the holder...the reverse area near the wing does not look like a strike-through error; I think it's just a hit that is in a place that didn't make either TPG detail the coin. I personally don't think it's bad enough to give a details grade but it is grade limiting, which helps explain the MS 63. The color is again strong and PCGS helped capture the textile in their photo. NGC missed on all three 1890-O Morgans by not giving a single one a star.

 

Part 5 here

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/pcgs-sub-2022-guess-the-grade-part-5-of-5.395619/

 

I would have thought for sure that was a strike through on the wing. Very surprising.

 

Nailed it. I don’t think the wing mark is bad enough to cost the coin a straight grade. It definitely cost it a 64 grade for sure, by both TPGs. I don’t know if I agree that it is not a mint error, no matter whether they designated it, or not. Irrespective of the wing mark, it is a very attractive coin, with pleasing obverse toning. This coin has a much better strike than the other two 1890o coins.

 

I might be wrong; I interpreted it as a hit but maybe it is a strike through