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Discussion in 'World Coins' started by ycon, Jun 10, 2018.

  1. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Here's a lovely Elizabeth I groat I just purchased (mere moments ago from @PaddyB ). It'll take a while to get to me, but in the meantime here are the seller's photos.
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  3. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Dombes collector Supporter

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    UK, Elizabeth I° - Six pence 1591


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    France, Francois I° - Teston (after 1528)


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    France, Henri II - Teston 1555


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    France, Henri III - Demi franc, 1587


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    Dombes, Louis II de Montpensier - Pistole, 1578


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    Dombes, Louis II de Montpensier - Teston, 1576


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    Dombes, Henri II de Montpensier - Teston, 1604

    ... and some others...

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  4. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    There is a thread about griffins going. You could also post this groschen there and score 2 for 1
     
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  5. coin_nut

    coin_nut Supporter! Supporter

    1519 Hungary 1 denar 1519 HU 1 d obv.JPG 1519 HU 1 d rev.JPG
     
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  6. ycon

    ycon Well-Known Member

    This is my favorite non-Italian, Renaissance, (non) coin. Screen Shot 2018-06-12 at 8.jpg
    Charles IX, ca. 1570. Nuremberg Jeton. 27mm, 4.10 gr. Obv : JUPITER ET GANYMEDES. Ganymede and the Eagle. Rev: VENERANDA MINERVA. Minerva seated left. By Hans Krauwinckles (1562-1586).
     
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  7. cmezner

    cmezner Well-Known Member

    and one Angel of some Edward, don't know which one :-(
    26 mm, 4.98 g; London n.d.
    Obverse: EDWARD DI GRA REX ANGL Z FRANC (Edward by the Grace of God King of England and France) standing facing Archangel Michael slaying dragon with lance, beaded circle surrounding
    Reverse: PER CRUCE TUA SALVA NOS XPC REDEMPT (By Thy Cross save us Christ our Redeemer) galley at sea overlaid with quartered shield upon hull, ‘E’ and rose flank thick cross-like mast, ropes 2/1 with long bowsprit

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  8. Milesofwho

    Milesofwho Omnivorous collector

    Yours is Edward IV, second reign. The initial mintmark looks like a cinquefoil, so if it is one that dates it to 1480-1483.
     
  9. wcg

    wcg Well-Known Member

    An early date 1542 german states taler from the Halberstadt.

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  10. cmezner

    cmezner Well-Known Member

    Thank you very much Milesofwho :)
     
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  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    Oh! Hungarian denars. Forgot about those. :)

    I was briefly collecting those by date.

    Here are a few of the nicely toned ones I was lucky enough to acquire incredibly cheap (<$10) from a dealer in Eastern Europe. Wish I had bought the rest he had up for auction. Haven't seen any this nicely toned since.

    1516-KG (this and the 1527 below were my favorites! Check out the 1580, too.)
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    There were more ...
     
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  12. ycon

    ycon Well-Known Member

    This morning I won my dream coin from Dix Noonan Webb:

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    Tuscany, Alessandro de Medici (1510-37), Testone, ALEX ANDER M – R P FLOREEN DVX, bust of Alessandro l., Rv. S COSMVS – S DAMIANVS. Cosimo and Damiano standing facing. , 9.95g/12h (MIR 103). Plugged, otherwise very fine, rare. Dies by Benvenuto Cellini.

    Cellini describes the coin in his autobiography (LXXX):

    "No sooner had I dismounted that I went to visit Duke Alessandro, and thanked him greatly for his present of the fifty crowns, telling his Excellency that I was always ready to serve him according to my abilities. He gave me orders at once to strike dies for his coinage; and the first I made was a piece of forty soldi, with the Dukes head on one side and San Cosimo and San Damiano on the other. This was in silver, and it gave so much satisfaction that the Duke did not hesitate to say they were the best pieces of money in Christendom. The same said all Florence and every one who saw them. Consequently I asked his Excellency to make me appointments, and to grant me the lodgings of the Mint. He bade me remain in his service, and promised he would give me more than I demanded. Meanwhile he said he had commissioned the Master of the Mint, a certain Carlo Acciaiuoli, and that I might go to him for all the money that I wanted. This I found to be true; but I drew my monies so discreetly, that I had always something to my credit, according to my account."​

    He also describes it in his treatise on goldsmithing:

    "In Florence likewise did I make all the moneys for Duke Alexander the
    first of that name; they were 40 soldi pieces. And because the Duke was
    curly headed, the people called these coins the Duke’s curls. On one
    side was his head, and on the other St. Cosmo and St. Damian."​
     
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  13. cmezner

    cmezner Well-Known Member

    So many beautiful coins ! Impressive

    is Forint another name for Denar?

    Kingdom of Hungary; 1 Forint, Sigismund of Luxemburg, King of Hungary and Croatia from 1387, King of Germany from 1411, King of Bohemia from 1419, King of Italy from 1431, and Holy Roman Emperor for four years from 1433 until 1437, the last male member of the House of Luxemburg.

    20 mm, 3.51 g; ÉH 445, Huszár 572;
    Mint G = Nagybánya (Neustadt), 1387 - 1389

    Obverse: Fourfold shield of Hungary with Árpád stripes twice and Brandenburg eagles twice in inner pearl circle; + SIGISMVNDI · D · G · R · VNGARIE
    Reverse: Saint King László of Hungary standing with light helbard and orb crowned and with glory · S · LADISL AVS · REX -/G

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  14. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class User

    Emperor Charles V:

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    City of Besançon silver Carolus 1542
    Silver, 19mm, 1.44gm

    Obverse: Crowned bust of Charles V facing left / CAROLVS V IMPERATOR
    Reverse: Arms of the city / MONE CIVI BISVNTINE 1542

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  15. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    Nice one, WB2. Quite a bit higher grade and better struck than others of the type I've seen. I've admired that portrait and design on these a while, in my browsing around on VCoins and MA-Shops.
     
  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    Oh, no, the denars were small silver coins. You have gold, there!
     
  17. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    Congratulations!
     
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  18. cmezner

    cmezner Well-Known Member

    ups... :shame: as the ones you posted are yellow too and have also a coat of arms, I thought that maybe Forint is the Hungarian name. Apologies for my ignorance:inpain:
     
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  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    Forint is the modern currency unit of Hungary, I believe. I did not realize thst there were gold forints from that far back until I saw the one you posted. That is a very impressive coin!

    The denars obviously got their name from the ancient Roman denarius. But so did the Islamic dinars, both ancient and modern, gold and otherwise.
     
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  20. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Forint is the Hungarian word for fiorino or florin, the gold coin struck in Florence from 1252-1533 and copied in many countries including Hungary. The last ones in Hungary were struck under the Habsburg Emperor Ferdinand III in 1659. It was then replaced by a new denomination gold coin, the ducat.
    The forint was reintroduced in the 19th century under Emperor Franz Joseph as a silver coin and lasted till 1892. It was reintroduced again as an aluminium coin in 1946 after post-War hyperinflation had destroyed the pengo, Hungary's currency between the World Wars. After the collapse of the Wall and the end of the Communist regime, a copper-zinc forint was introduced in 1992 but it was withdrawn from circulation in March 2008 as by then the cost of production was about 4 times face value. I believe the lowest denomination coin currently in circulation is a 5 Forint.

    What a sad decline and fall from the glorious coin posted by cmezner !
     
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  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    Ahh, that makes sense. Thank you. I never associated "forint" with "florin" before.
     
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