Coin Talk
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My Vetranio experience
About 30 years ago I wanted a 'real' Vetranio. I find it upsetting now as I did then how many dealers peddle coins of Constantius II 'issued by Vetranio' as if they were 'real' Vetranios because they share the types and branch mint. In my book, coins of a person need to have the name or at least the portrait of the person. There are coins inscribed with the name of Vetranio.
I found a very worn but clear Vetranio AE2 with clear legends and the best of his reverses HOC SIGNO VICTOR ERIS Which was the then current way of saying By this sign, you will conquer. I wish I could show you a photo of that coin but I made a mistake and overwrote that file when I got the higher grade coin below. I was thrilled with the upgrade and quickly sold the lower grade coin seeing no reason to keep both.
My thrill with the above coin disappeared when I discovered it was a fake. There are quite a few of these on the fake reporting pages although there does seem to... -
Trivia - 1976 Coins
USA BICENTENNIAL COINS
The Bicentennial coins of 1976 are connected in three ways:
1. The mint announced in October 1973 it was holding an open contest for the selection of suitable designs for the special Bicentennial reverses of the quarter, half dollar and dollar coins. $5,000 would be awarded to each winner.
A. Jack L. Ahr's design of a colonial drummer boy facing left and a victory torch encircled by 13 stars positioned at the upper left was selected for the quarter.
B. Seth G. Huntington's design featuring Independence Hall in Philadelphia won out over all the competition for the half dollar.
C. Dennis R. Williams won the Dollar contest with his artistic rendition of the Liberty Bell being superimposed over a full moon.
2. There are no quarter, half dollar or dollar coins dated 1975. All quarters, halves and dollars were dated 1776 - 1976 even though many were struck in 1975. 1975 mint and proof sets included a... -
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that sling. And other coins of Macedon's war with Rome
ln my search to further understand (and obtain) Macedonian shield coins I have recently acquired a true "key date" coin of the bronze type (your welcome modern collectors, I've dumbed it down for you to understandI kid, I kid).
Not easily acquired, only 1 of the type has been shown here on coin talk. So I have every right to blame @zumbly for this superb acquisition (thanks for sharing, buddy).
But first a little history:
As Greek power waivered during the rise of Rome, it seemed natural that Rome would pick off the descendants of the diadochi, with Macedon first. However, Rome would not fight an unjust war. And genuinely appeared not to have desire nor reason to fight the Greeks. Nevertheless, history unfolded in a way that Rome couldn't have planned better had they set out for complete conquest of Greece.
Reason came for the first Macedonian war with Rome, 214 BCE, thanks to Philip V taking sides with Hannibal. It was... -
1871 Pattern $ Struck Counterfeit
I have been working on another variety of deceptive struck fakes actually for quite some time- another pattern besides the 1836 Gobrecht dollar I have previously written about, now an 1871 pattern silver dollar, known as Judd 1146.
The 1st example is the believed genuine source coin, NGC 1951038-011, certified in 2005 and recorded as sold in major auctions in Aug and Sept 2011.
This example appears to have turned up again as NGC 2791432-009, resubmitted by one of the known bad sellers of the time in June 2014. Like many of the other documented deceptive struck fakes the counterfeiters purchased a genuine example to use to make the counterfeit dies and then later resubmitted it for recertification and sale along with the struck clones...
The 1st two images show a comparison of these two highlighting the major common attribution marks including some rim disturbances.
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An obscure lord with an obscure coinage in Flanders: Arnold van Rummen
@AnYangMan was kind enough to offer his expertise on my thread about Margaret of Constantinople and he also launched an invitation for me to delve deeper into the feudal coinages of the Netherlands.
I have to say, I find this area extremely interesting and often rewarding, as I have mentioned in my Hainaut threads: here, about Margaret and here about Willem III and Albrecht van Beieren as Counts of Hainaut.
Unfortunately, outside the high profile auctions of Elsen, I don't really know where to search for a more deeper understanding first hand of the Low Countries coinages -- that is outside the feudal and royal sections of the French ebay or the regional/provincial sections of the Dutch and Belgian ebay plus some Flemish independent collector and... -
Isaac Comnenus of Cyprus
Here is a coin of Isaac Comnenus (1185-1191), usurper on the island of Cyprus. I like Byzantine AE but hadn't expected to seek such a rare ruler, but I got one anyway.
Tetarteron. 19 mm. 3.60 grams.
Christ pantocrator, enthroned. EMMA NOV...
Virgin, nimbate, crowning the emperor. ΙICAAKOC [off the flan to the left] DECPOTIC to right.
Sear 1998 "Extremely rare" although acsearch shows some have been found since Sear was published in 1987.
DOC 4.1, #10, page 363 and 4.2 plate XIX (images from coins in the ANS, not DO). Sear noted that it was not certain this type was not of Isaac II, but by 1999 when DO 4 was published Grierson was able to assert that find spots make it clear this was correctly attributed as a coin of the usurper Isaac Comnenus.
Here is the location of Cyprus from Google maps:
This Isaac Comnenus (there are also two other Byzantines of that name) was a grandson of the brother of emperor Manuel... -
Pisidian Antioch
Post your coins of Pisidian Antioch or anything you feel is relevant!
Pisidian Antioch was one of many cities named Antioch founded by Seleucus I (312-280 BC) or his son Antiochus I (280-261 BC). It was not truly in Pisidia, which was the mountainous region separating Pamphylia from Phrygia to the north. Antioch, strictly speaking, stood in the eastern part of Phrygia, which was later incorporated into the Roman province of Galatia. The geographer Strabo, writing in the early years of Tiberius’ reign, named the city Antioch towards Pisidia, to distinguish it from another Antioch on the Meander River in Caria.[1]
From "Asia citerior," Auctore Henrico Kiepert Berolinensi. Geographische Verlagshandlung Dietrich Reimer (Ernst Vohsen) Berlin, Wilhemlstr. 29. (1903). David Rumsey Historical Map Collection.
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A Draped Bust, Small Eagle Type Set
When James Ruddy was selecting the coins for his Photograde book of United States coins, he stated that the hardest coins for him to find were the Draped Bust, Small Eagle type coins. If you are forming a type set of U.S. coins from 1792 to date, this group of coins is the spot where "the rubber meets the road." These coins are expensive, and they are hard to find. You be lucky to see any of them at the small coins shows, and you will see only a limited number at the large shows. Finding select examples for the grade is even harder.
I started this set in the early 1980s. Since I have collected the early half dimes and dollars by date, I will provide few alternative coins to see which you prefer.
This 1796 half dime is the highest grade piece I have at AU-58, CAC. This is a "glamor shot" that was supplied by the dealer. I have never been able to photograph this coin well. The 1796 half dime is rarer than the 1794 half dime.
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Post Your Soho Mint Coins, Medals and Tokens
The Soho Mint was created by entrepreneur Matthew Boulton in 1788 on the grounds of the Soho Manufactory. Boulton designed and patented minting machines for use in his mint that were driven by steam engines and which could produce 60 to 80 coins per minute depending on the size of the coin. The mint produced a wide variety of interesting coins, medals and tokens from its founding in 1788 until it was sold off in 1850.
The Soho Manufactory c. 1800
One group of coins manufactured by the Soho Mint was on its way to India aboard an East Indiaman ship known as the Admiral Gardner when, on January 24, 1809, the ship was caught in a storm and sank near the Goodwin Sands.
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The last king of Galatia
Historically the name of Galatia was derived from the Gauls who invaded central Asia Minor in the third century BC, and established an independent kingdom centered around the cities of Pessinus, Ancyra and Tavium. There were three Galatian tribes: Trocmii, Tectosages and Tolistobogii.
The constitution of the Galatian state is described by Strabo: Eeach tribe was divided into cantons, governed by a Tetrarch with a judge under him, whose powers were unlimited except in cases of murder, which were tried before a council of 300 drawn from the twelve cantons and meeting at a holy place, twenty miles south-west of Ancyra.
These Galatians were warriors, respected by Greeks and Romans and were often hired as mercenary soldiers. At the beginning of the Mithridatic Wars the Galatians had supported the Pontic King Mithridates VI against Rome. However, after defeat at the Battle of Chaeornea in 86 BC Mithridates began to suspect treachery even in...
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