Coin Talk
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Two Very Similar 1808 Classic Head Cents
Reviewing recently the Heritage archives for the 1808 Classic Head, variety S-278 I came across this example which interestingly shows very similar striking characteristics to an example in my collection.
This is the Heritage example:
The auction description for this coins reads: ''The uneven strike suggests misaligned dies or a tapered planchet. The obverse is extremely weak from 6 to 10 o'clock, and the reverse is similarly weak from 8 to 12 o'clock''.
This is my example. It shows the same obverse and reverse peripheral weakness. This weakness is not common in S-278 (of 73 examples of S-278 listed, only 3 or 4 show similar striking weakness).
It therefore occurred to me that both of these coins must have been struck from the same section of planchet strip (that was tapered so as to cause the weakness when struck), and possibly also within a very short time span from each other.
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A New Penny for England
I acquired an Edward I Penny Class 1c back in 2017 but haven’t had the chance to give it the post it deserves until now. I hope this long winded post makes for an enjoyable read, even for those without a collecting interest in medieval coins.
The reign of Henry III of England is remarkable for not only its length, but also the political instability and military setbacks throughout his reign. In 1247 a reformation of the English coinage was badly needed. Clipping of the coins had become such a problem that many of the coins in circulation were underweight while many others were in poor shape. Coins of good quality and full weight were hoarded and removed from circulation. The new penny that was introduced is known as the Voided Long-Cross penny, with a cross stretching the lengthof the reverse of the coin in an attempt to deter clipping. The voided long cross also made cutting the penny into halves and quarters, a long standing tradition, much easier.... -
More to this than meets the eye
... but I don't yet know what! This coin was a splurge from many months ago but I hadn't yet posted it, wanting first to satisfy my remaining questions. I've failed to do so and am enlisting your help.
The coin:
EGYPT, Alexandria. Nero
Regnal year 14 (CE 67/8)
AE diobol; 27 mm, 10.9 gm
Obv: NEPΩKΛAVK[AIΣΣEBΓEPA]; laureate head right
Rev: L - IΔ; "vase" (Emmett), or "oinochoe" per others (others are probably correct)
Ref: Dattari-Savio Pl. 1, 2 (this coin); Dattari cf 286; RPC 5322; Emmett 153.14; Poole (BM, 1892) cf 188?; Milne -; none in a few other minor references I own. Rare.
ex Dattari collection (Giovanni Dattari, 1858-1923)
I bought this coin for several reasons. First, I love coins of Roman Egypt, especially ones with unusual or Egypt-specific reverses. Second, I'm a sucker for an old pedigree and this is another ex Dattari coin. Third, I hadn't seen such a detailed oinochoe on a coin (they are found on several tiny... -
NORMANS IN SICILY: Peaceful Coexistence
- Roger I Grand Count of Sicily( c. 1031 – 22 June 1101), was a Norman nobleman who became the first Count of Sicily from 1071 to 1101. Born in Normandy, he was a member of the House of Hauteville.
- Roger II, sucessor to his father, Roger I, he became himself first Count of Sicily from 1101 to 1130, then king of Sicily from 1130-1154 , and his descendants in the male line continued to rule Sicily, down to 1194.
- William I. King of Sicily.. the second King of Sicily, ruling from his father's death in 1154
to his own in 1166.
Under the Norman kings, Sicily lived a peaceful period of coexistence for Christians, Moslems and Jews, they could freely speak their language and follow their religious rites.
This is reflected in coins, some of which also reproduced islamic characters (sometimes more imitative than accurate) besides their latin legends.
For instance, here are three coins of the Normans:
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Red Book - Modern US Dollar Coins - Book Review
Hi all,
Welcome to my first thread of 2018!
Today I want to talk about a wonderful book I picked up recently.
The Official Red BookSubjects included in this book are
A Guide Book of Modern United States Dollar Coins
Book #22
History, Rarity, Grading, Values & Varieties.. and my favorite part Errors!
I started to read this book and so far I find it very informative with a lot of facsinating stories such as trial peices, problems with designs, and historical news events that occurred during different years. Here are some pictures I want to share from the pages -
The cover.. With some of my Different Dollar Coin Mint Errors
An example of a rejected design for the 1979 Dollar Coin as we know now as the Susan B. Anthony Dollar
Mint Errors
And a cool sign on one of the US Mint Die Hubbing machines.. With a spelling error. See if you can figure it... -
Coins of the Newly Independent Latin American Republics - Chile's Volcano Coinage.
Chile's Volcano coins are, in my opinion that countries' most appealing and iconic coinage since it became an independent republic in 1817. The obverse shows an erupting Volcano (probably Mount Aconcagua) with 'Santiago' on the reverse, and 'Chile Independente' surrounding. On the obverse, a column with a globe atop, as symbols of liberty.
Start of production was early in 1817 following the defeat of the spanish royalist troops by the chilean patriots on the plains of Chacabuco (February 12th 1817) just north of the capital Santiago. The Volcano coinage was struck in one Peso denomination from 1817 until 1834. It was also struck in 2 and 1 Real denomination in 1834, and as a half real in 1832-1834.
3 types are known for the pesos of 1817: those with assayers initials F.J, those without any assayers initials, and finally coins with assayers initials F.D.
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The trouble with t̶r̶i̶b̶b̶l̶e̶s̶ trachys
Collecting Byzantine trachys is quite challenging (Byzantine coins, in general, is an acquired taste). The condition of most of these coins are poor with missing legends, ragged and split edges, multiple strikes, and due to the concave nature of the flan, missing features in the strike. Sometimes you end up with a very skinny Virgin Mary or a two-headed Christ. To add insult to injury, they are damn hard to photograph due to its awkward shape.
According to Simon Bendall, these coins were struck twice, once on the left and then on the right. His theory was that if the lower die had greater curvature than the upper die, then the middle of the coin would be fully struck with weak or blank sides. The opposite occurs if the upper die had greater curvature than the lower die. The edges would be fully struck and the center would be weak or blank.
This can be observed in the following trachy that has a very... -
Diocletian: Two Interesting Coins and a Legacy of Reform
A recent trip to visit the remains of Diocletian’s palace in Split, Croatia have had me fascinated with all things Diocletian for the last several months! I have acquired two coins this year that were struck under Diocletian that I would like to discuss. My research led me in a lot of interesting directions so I will apologize in advance concerning the excessively long essay. I just can’t seem to curb my enthusiasm for my favorite new acquisitions. I hope that by writing essays like this on my research and offering it here to be freely available it will help others to learn when otherwise some of the information might be more difficult or expensive to find.
1.0 – Early Life of Diocletian
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1861 three cent pc
- Last evening C-D-B posted an 1861 silver 3 cent piece, in the less than $50 thread. it caught my eye for several reasons. First it was hammered so much detail on this little gem. There's more plenty more if I am correct....and If I'm correct this thread will allow members two things #1 see a very cool variety that is extremely rare. And #2 make them aware of other such varties exist, that may be found in other denominations .
- In 1861 the U.S. Mint minted 1000 proof three cent pieces, and 497,000 mint state coins.* proof dies were also used to strike Mint state coins!
- Orginally 1000 proof coins were struck and delivered on April 15 with the sets of proof coins. However over 600 were melted as unsold .
- The records I have state 15 obvs.& 16 Revs. Dies were used in 1861
- Large dates are counterfeit coins.
- Now the coin in question.....I believe to be either a proof strike that somehow got into circulation or what is known as an RPD -001 also known as the 1861...
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So... Why Quadrigas?
I am currently engrossed in a book (The Genius of China, by Robert Temple) detailing all of the inventions that China had created, which were eventually adopted by Europeans without giving due credit to the Chinese. (It's a big book, so I look forward to everything else it has to offer.) One of these inventions was an effective horse harness. While I was reading the chapter, I suddenly realized why so many horses are seen pulling chariots on ancient European coins. Let me explain below:
In Europe, the only horse harness was a throat-and-girth harness. Basically, it wrapped around the horse's throat and belly to give a secure attachment. The disadvantage to this arrangement was that the horse gets severely choked and thus becomes quite inefficient. The author claims this is the reason why the Roman Empire had to import all of their grain from egypt; without an effective method to transporting Italian grain by land, it proved to be better to just import the grain by sea....
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