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<p>[QUOTE="InfleXion, post: 1479313, member: 29012"]It is an absolute fact that mining supply does not meet demand. To say that I am flailing while you dispute factual information, well, we have a word for that here, kettle. You are patently incorrect about that. Try looking them up instead of assuming they are a certain way because of price action in manipulated markets. </p><p><br /></p><p>If silver were still as abundant in the ground as it used to be then it would still come out of the ground 17 times more abundant than gold. It doesn't matter whether this includes primary silver mines are not. The fact is, we would be seeing 17 times as much silver than gold if 17 times as much existed in the ground. This is undisputable. </p><p><br /></p><p>As for your numbers on the total cost of mining, I will defer on that one since I don't have those handy. However, this does not change the fact that if all the primary silver mines were opened up that the production cost of silver would rise. You are deflecting from the point here. </p><p><br /></p><p>For the SLV, it is logically sound to conclude that any money invested in paper silver keeps the price lower than if it were invested in real metal, since the paper doesn't have the metal to back it up, and thus buying SLV does not impact the physical market to the same degree. This is irrelevant to going long or short, or who is making what money. The point is that it diverts real demand. </p><p><br /></p><p>To answer your honest question, yes, I do believe it is based on facts. I could ask you the same.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="InfleXion, post: 1479313, member: 29012"]It is an absolute fact that mining supply does not meet demand. To say that I am flailing while you dispute factual information, well, we have a word for that here, kettle. You are patently incorrect about that. Try looking them up instead of assuming they are a certain way because of price action in manipulated markets. If silver were still as abundant in the ground as it used to be then it would still come out of the ground 17 times more abundant than gold. It doesn't matter whether this includes primary silver mines are not. The fact is, we would be seeing 17 times as much silver than gold if 17 times as much existed in the ground. This is undisputable. As for your numbers on the total cost of mining, I will defer on that one since I don't have those handy. However, this does not change the fact that if all the primary silver mines were opened up that the production cost of silver would rise. You are deflecting from the point here. For the SLV, it is logically sound to conclude that any money invested in paper silver keeps the price lower than if it were invested in real metal, since the paper doesn't have the metal to back it up, and thus buying SLV does not impact the physical market to the same degree. This is irrelevant to going long or short, or who is making what money. The point is that it diverts real demand. To answer your honest question, yes, I do believe it is based on facts. I could ask you the same.[/QUOTE]
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