Why Most Stackers Fail

wasting your life to die rich is as foolish as anything

 

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Quit.......... go somewhere else dont waste my time with you dragging attitude let somebody that wants to work and learn the job the right way. Dont need know slackers when your life and job is on the line everyday. A mistake could cost you a limb or life so we on the RR take it very serious. So some need not apply.. 12 hour days sometimes.. this life is not for everyone... die poor then.. I worked to max out my 401k yearly.. There are job out there no workers.

 

Jeff, you worked until properly relieved regarless off hours you just dont stop a train in the middle of the country and say well I made 300.00 dollars that all I want to make this week. WHAT.. so you say dont make more money because you become foolish. I dont leave money hanging out there.. If that trainmaster comes up to me with hour left to work and says I pay you another days pay if you make this move.. So you wouldnt work a hour for another full days pay on top of you regular days pay. thats two days pay for one... I am all over it. and its really nice on payday. Not everyone is cut out for this I saw it first hand I GET IT.. Jeff there are times when the mis managed Buffet RR just hands out money to you and I am would not refuse to let it go by, to get that money you had to show up for work.

 

Okay, I get it now.

Your point: you don't slack off when others are depending on you. You don't back out of doing something you've agreed to do. If you have a chance to make a lot more money for a little more work, you're foolish not to take it. I agree with ALL of that.

My point is that more money isn't worth giving up your family, your friends, your health. There's a sickness endemic in our society that forces people to do just that. Sometimes their job pays so poorly that they need to work themselves to death to stay housed and fed. Sometimes they have to "spend" (waste) hours a day just getting to and from their job. Sometimes they make great money, but if they go in on the weekend instead of taking that fishing trip or taking the kids to the park, they can maybe get that promotion and make even more money -- and more is always better, right?

Yeah, more money is better. But it's not better than everything.

 

I appreciate both sentiments. I am probably closer to the workaholic category than the taking time off for things side of the ledger. I am not proud of that. I know I need to ease off.

However, I fully respect @slackaction1 view. My father told me great advice when I started working. He said, "you agreed to work for them for X an hour. You owe them all of the work they ask of you while you are collecting that money. If you do not like it, quit and go somewhere for more money, but never slack off while working because you are unhappy with the pay. You agreed to it". Best advice I ever got. If you work hard, promotions and more money will come most of the time, and if not quit and find something better.

 

As adults we live what we learned coming up. I had a poor single mother that worked all day and schooled all night to provide for me. That was what I knew. Now as an adult people tell me all the time that I have the hardest work ethic of anyone they ever knew..... I rather think it is my epitaph. Yet for as long as I can remember it has been 55-60 hour workweeks for me. Work and commitment are what I was taught. They are what I live. If my place failed tomorrow and I went to work for Burger King, I would do the very same. I often wonder what it would feel like to wake up with the sun shining....

 

that doesn't make your outlook healthy

 

Does that mean I get a refund on the homeowner's insurance policy that I never made a claim against?

 

that's not how insurance works

 

Another rip off................... Insurance....................... you got to have.. AND THE DEDUCTABLE.. I had no idea how much claims haved changed until I pulverized a deer and f-150 truck side.. You take pictures and send them to claim agent and they look at damage from pics.. I called them and said you missed a few spots, they ordered second hand parts not new ones and fix truck I went up there and made an ass of myself after 40 years with state farm I moved it all the hell out of their. The Claim Agent was fairly new but I RIPPED HIM GOOD ANYWAYS.. HAPPY WEEKEND EVERYBODY

 

And what job would you be unwilling to take?

My mom got upset with my dad once when he was laid off from a supervisor job. He wouldn't take just any job and she had to go to work. He did start taking other jobs, but it was still a struggle.

I always felt that no matter what job I had, it was done to support my lifestyle. I didn't worry about if I liked it or if I could have better pay in another job, as long as it met my needs. I was willing to take jobs others might not. I wasn't in it for the money as long as it allowed me to have the lifestyle I wanted. And I really didn't want that much.

 

"Work to live" vs. "live to work", perhaps?

Thing is, the lifestyle I want includes not spending eight hours or more a day doing things I don't want to do. I've been super-lucky, because I enjoy a kind of work that happens to pay fairly well, even though I'm the furthest thing from "driven".

 

Yes, you have been super lucky. Not many people have that option. I could have gone from seasonal to permanent at the post office, but I was determined to work with computers. I had a good 30 years doing that at various places, and I enjoyed it all. But my last 12 years was spent as an airport screener. I didn't like it as much, but it did allow me to indulge my habit of living.

To me, it's this thing called compartmentalization. Separating work and life helps when things get bad on either front. As far as not wanting to do what you dislike, I understand. But would you be willing to do something you didn't like just to support you and yours? My dad st one point started selling cemetery plots, but I doubt that he liked it. Some people just don't have the luxury you did.

 

I have people say I have been lucky. I admit I have been able to work jobs I find interesting, so do not resent the comment in that way. Anytime in the past I didn't like my job I simply looked for a different one.

What I do not like in that statement that somehow it was chance. I joined the service and worked full time to put myself through college, paid for and completed a couple of masters and a doctorate, studied for and got many certifications like cpa, cma, cfp, etc. I have worked my butt of in life to be so "lucky".

So, "you are lucky" gives me mixed feelings. I am lucky I have my health, my family, and did not get killed in the war. Most everything else was hard work. I tell everyone, hard work will tilt the odds in your favor in life.

 

National Guard one weekend a month gave me a whopping $140 a month toward college. I worked full time at QuikTrip while carrying a full load. Oh, I guess I did get a little of that "govt job" money while in the Persian Gulf War. The war was the majority of my "socialist government money".

How did you pay for your college? My parents couldn't afford it so I paid 100% myself.

 

I am a DOD Civilian. I work for the Department of the Army. I did use tuition assistance when I was on active duty. Afterwards, I used the GI bill and Vocational Rehabilitation. I love my job. I finally got into the position that I wanted, received a promotion and only have a 15-20 minute commute.

 

nothing free in a G.I. BILL I am here to tell ya... I lived to worked so my retirement would be greater they use the last five years or your best five years so I hurt them as much as I could the last five...

 

It's not socialism when I do it

 

Well.... I think @medoraman sort of earned it when he put his life on the line. Just a bit different than being handed an education just because.