Who buys this story?

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by ToughCOINS, May 2, 2018.


Who is the prime suspect in arranging for this "loss"?

  1. The tattooed black man

  2. The buyer living in the trailer park

  3. The seller who shipped the gold

  4. The UPS driver

  5. All of the above

  1. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Okay folks, pardon my cynicism . . . Who buys this story?

    UPS Theft

    Detectives with the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office Largo, Florida are investigating the following case.

    In Clearwater Florida, on April 24, 2018 at 1154 hours, a victim reported that her (2) UPS packages containing (70) American Eagle Gold
    Coins, valued at $99,050, were never delivered. UPS showed that they delivered the (2) packages the same date. H

    owever, the driver was intentionally stopped at the entrance to the victim's mobile home park. The suspect told the

    UPS driver that "he had 2 packages for him to be delivered to a particular lot #". The UPS driver verified the victim's

    correct address on the suspected fake driver's license which was provided by the suspect. The suspect signed for the packages and


    The suspect is a black male, in his 30's, tall and slender, calm demeanor,LSW- dark blue or black scrubs, gold
    necklace, white socks with black sandals. Possible tattoo on his arm and on right hand. There was a 2nd suspect, unk

    description, who remained inside of the vehicle.

    Suspect vehicle - 2003-2005 Blue Dodge Neon, 4-door, unk tag. (The UPS driver remembers seeing the vehicle as he
    pulled in therefore the suspect appeared to be waiting for him).

    Contact: Detective Jennifer Zinge (727) 580-3775
    Case # SO18-122174
    Pinellas County Sheriff's Office, Largo, Florida

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  3. mynamespat

    mynamespat Dingus

    I'm not positive, but I think I have a lead on one of the suspects:
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  4. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Sounds like a possible scam to try and get the insurance and the coins.
  5. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    I would think that $100k is delivered to trailer parks every day. But I suspect that it is drugs rather than gold most of the time.
  6. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    Sounds fishy
  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I am not buying it. There is some foul play going on.
    Tater likes this.
  8. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    If it ain’t gelling it ain’t Jello. And this tale doesn’t even come close.
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  9. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I wonder how the suspect knew that 2 packages were coming and when to be there at the right time. It's a short list of those that would have this information.
  10. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Theft by deception and a really Stupid UPS guy.
    carpman98 likes this.
  11. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Not a chance....

    One can only hope the authorities are looking closely at the delivery guy.
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  12. SilverMike

    SilverMike Well-Known Member

    I can only imagine what the detective thought when taking the initial report...
  13. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    My thoughts exactly. What are the odds that:
    • Someone, apparently unknown to both the buyer (and the seller) would learn of the inbound merchandise?
    • That same someone would know the date and time the parcels would arrive?
    • That same someone would even hatch a plan so dependent upon accuracy of information, timing, and willingness of the UPS driver to stop for him at the entrance to the trailer park?
    • Passersby noticed this blue neon loitering at the entrance, waiting for the UPS truck before it arrived? Surely, for such a haul, they would be hours early, so as not to miss the opportunity to intercept such valuable packages.
    • In the time that it takes from placement of the order to delivery, this unknown suspect even had the time to have fake identification made?
    • The package bore no external evidence of value, of the seller's core business, or of any restricted delivery requirement?
    • The delivery person was so unsuspecting of the contents as to hand the packages over to someone other than the addressee at a location other than the intended address?
    • Handwriting analysis would implicate the UPS driver as having signed for the parcels?
    • The UPS isn't already looking at geo-tracking data to see if the truck even stopped at the entrance long enough to have conducted the claimed transaction?
    If I were the investigator in this case, I'd be all over the delivery person like water on a fish.
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  14. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Extremely high for someone wanting the insurance saying they never got it and had the coins picked up by someone else.
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  15. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    They do that a lot depending on the driver, some don’t give a crap
  16. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Do people in trailer parks often buy $100000 in gold coins. There does seem to be plenty for any investigator to get their teeth into here. The IRS may be interested in the person buying them :)
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  17. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    i would say not, if someone is living in a trailer park, i would doubt in most cases
    That they would have that type of investment capital, you would have to ask the
    Question why are you still there...LOL
  18. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Some parks are well-maintained neighborhoods of choice for some retirees with substantial assets. Many of those who choose to live there are frugal by nature, want a small property to care for, yet be in a close-knit, affordable community.

    You'd probably be very surprised by the stories I could but won't tell about some folks living in trailer parks, and their real estate holdings, stock portfolios or coin collections.
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  19. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    So, you think it is the seller (as the beneficiary of shipping insurance) that arranged the interception, and not the buyer? . . . interesting.

    To be more clear, I don't believe this event ever occurred.

    I'm interested in what others think, so I've added a poll at the top of the thread.
  20. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I went with buyer but the seller was a close second. Maybe the seller sent rocks in the boxes. This story is too crazy to be true.
  21. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    If the buyer, then she and the tattooed man are known to one another, and it won't take long for police to make that connection, either through witnesses having seen him and / or the Neon at her residence, or through her phone records.

    I suspect this case will be solved inside of just a few weeks, and NCIC will let us know what happened.
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