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<p>[QUOTE="Ryro, post: 8341998, member: 91461"]You are traveling through another dimension of coinage, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of weird countermarks. A journey into a wondrous coin that is a truly strange anomaly that comes down to us through the eons. That's the signpost up ahead - your next stop, the Ryro Zone!</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1479297[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Not seen very often, and never if you keep your eyes closed, are these Lydian(?) coins from the reign of Tiberius featuring Germanicus and Drusus:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1479279[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1479278[/ATTACH] </p><p>Germanicus and Drusus</p><p>LYDIA, Sardes (?), Struck CE 23-26?</p><p>restruck by Asinius Pollio, proconsul of Asia under Caligula, CE 37-38? Æ26, 13.78 gm</p><p>Obv: ΔPOYΣOΣ KAI ΓEPMANIKOΣ NEIOI ΘEOI ΦIΛAΔEΛΦOI; Germanicus and Drusus seated left on curule chairs, one holding lituus.</p><p>Rev: ΓAIΩ AΣINNIΩ ΠΩΛΛIΩNI ANΘYΠATΩ; KOINOY/ AΣIAΣ within wreath</p><p>Ref: RPC 2995, Sear 365</p><p><br /></p><p>These rarities are made all the more strange and unique due to the weird circular countermark that they have that completely covers the previous legends!? So many circles covering circles <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie99" alt=":watching:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1479300[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Apparently, around the reign of Caligula a proconsul wanted to erase his predecessor and put his own name instead! (Is my favored interpretation of a coin type we know little about).</p><p>Learn more from this AWESOME featured thread (remember when they would do that?) by [USER=56859]@TIF[/USER] !</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-puzzling-provincial-of-germanicus-and-drusus.264079/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-puzzling-provincial-of-germanicus-and-drusus.264079/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-puzzling-provincial-of-germanicus-and-drusus.264079/</a></p><p>(Had fun reading through this old treasure. Made me miss [USER=72818]@Mikey Zee[/USER] and [USER=44183]@stevex6[/USER] who was off here before I joined<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie10" alt=":oops:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Speaking of, had anyone heard from @furryfrog?)</p><p><br /></p><p>TIF and [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER] are the only other CTers with this type that I'm aware of.</p><p><br /></p><p>But this isn't even about that coin. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1479314[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Even more rare however is the type without the one of a kind countermark. </p><p>A coin so normal it's nearly unique due to NOT having the strange circular countermark!</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1479319[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Usually selling for stupid amounts (especially in this condition) I just stole mine in today's Demos auction.</p><p> Here I submit for your approval a coin so regular it's down right strange:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1479283[/ATTACH] </p><p>★ Rare ★</p><p><br /></p><p>(11.92g 26mm Bronze) LYDIA, Sardes. Germanicus and Drusus, Caesares. 23-26 AD. AE Asinius Pollio, Proconsul.</p><p>Togate figures of Drusus and Germanicus seated left on curule chairs,</p><p>Rev.ΔΡOΥΣOΣ KAI ΓEΡMANIKOΣ KAIΣAΡEΣ NEOI ΘEOI ΦIΛAΔEΛΦOI around KOINOΥ AΣIAΣ in two lines within wreath; ΓAIΩ AΣINNIΩ ΠOΛΛIΩNI ANΘΥΠATΩ around.</p><p>RPC I 2995.</p><p><br /></p><p>And some coins of the others involved around this time:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1479286[/ATTACH] </p><p>Tiberius</p><p>AE As, AD 22-23, TI CAESAR DIVI AVG F AVGVST IMP VIII , bare head right, rev PONTIF MAXIM TRIBVN POTEST XXIIII around large SC, (RIC 44; BMC 91</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's my latest Caligula that I don't believe I've shared yet. It's everyone's favorite evil emp with mother of Germanicus, making her Caligula's grandmother!</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1479288[/ATTACH] </p><p>Gaius Caligula, with Antonia, MACEDON. Thessalonica. 37-41. (Bronze, 22 mm, 9.95 g, 6 h). Γ KAIΣAP ΘEΣΣAΛONIKEΩN Laureate head of Caligula to left. Rev. ΑΝΤΩΝΙΑ ΣΕΒΑΣΤΗ Veiled head of Antonia II to left, wearing stephane. RPC I 1574. Brown patina. NVF. Purchased from Savoca November 2021</p><p><br /></p><p>A scrubby rarity of our huckleberries:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1479284[/ATTACH] </p><p>Germanicus, with Drusus Caesar</p><p>MYSIA. Pergamon. 4 BC-AD 19. Ae.</p><p>Obv: ΓEPMANIKOΣ KAIΣAP.</p><p>Bare head of Germanicus right.</p><p>Rev: ΔPOYΣOΣ KAIΣAP.</p><p>Bare head of Drusus right.</p><p>RPC I 2367.</p><p>Condition: Near very fine.</p><p>Weight: 3.33 g.</p><p>Diameter: 17 mm.</p><p><br /></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]sezc05A4s2g[/MEDIA]</p><p><br /></p><p>Please share your coins of the type, Germanicus or Drusus, Tiberius or Caligula, weird countermarks, theories and or coins so normal it's weird![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ryro, post: 8341998, member: 91461"]You are traveling through another dimension of coinage, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of weird countermarks. A journey into a wondrous coin that is a truly strange anomaly that comes down to us through the eons. That's the signpost up ahead - your next stop, the Ryro Zone! [ATTACH=full]1479297[/ATTACH] Not seen very often, and never if you keep your eyes closed, are these Lydian(?) coins from the reign of Tiberius featuring Germanicus and Drusus: [ATTACH=full]1479279[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1479278[/ATTACH] Germanicus and Drusus LYDIA, Sardes (?), Struck CE 23-26? restruck by Asinius Pollio, proconsul of Asia under Caligula, CE 37-38? Æ26, 13.78 gm Obv: ΔPOYΣOΣ KAI ΓEPMANIKOΣ NEIOI ΘEOI ΦIΛAΔEΛΦOI; Germanicus and Drusus seated left on curule chairs, one holding lituus. Rev: ΓAIΩ AΣINNIΩ ΠΩΛΛIΩNI ANΘYΠATΩ; KOINOY/ AΣIAΣ within wreath Ref: RPC 2995, Sear 365 These rarities are made all the more strange and unique due to the weird circular countermark that they have that completely covers the previous legends!? So many circles covering circles :watching: [ATTACH=full]1479300[/ATTACH] Apparently, around the reign of Caligula a proconsul wanted to erase his predecessor and put his own name instead! (Is my favored interpretation of a coin type we know little about). Learn more from this AWESOME featured thread (remember when they would do that?) by [USER=56859]@TIF[/USER] ! [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-puzzling-provincial-of-germanicus-and-drusus.264079/[/URL] (Had fun reading through this old treasure. Made me miss [USER=72818]@Mikey Zee[/USER] and [USER=44183]@stevex6[/USER] who was off here before I joined:oops: Speaking of, had anyone heard from @furryfrog?) TIF and [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER] are the only other CTers with this type that I'm aware of. But this isn't even about that coin. [ATTACH=full]1479314[/ATTACH] Even more rare however is the type without the one of a kind countermark. A coin so normal it's nearly unique due to NOT having the strange circular countermark! [ATTACH=full]1479319[/ATTACH] Usually selling for stupid amounts (especially in this condition) I just stole mine in today's Demos auction. Here I submit for your approval a coin so regular it's down right strange: [ATTACH=full]1479283[/ATTACH] ★ Rare ★ (11.92g 26mm Bronze) LYDIA, Sardes. Germanicus and Drusus, Caesares. 23-26 AD. AE Asinius Pollio, Proconsul. Togate figures of Drusus and Germanicus seated left on curule chairs, Rev.ΔΡOΥΣOΣ KAI ΓEΡMANIKOΣ KAIΣAΡEΣ NEOI ΘEOI ΦIΛAΔEΛΦOI around KOINOΥ AΣIAΣ in two lines within wreath; ΓAIΩ AΣINNIΩ ΠOΛΛIΩNI ANΘΥΠATΩ around. RPC I 2995. And some coins of the others involved around this time: [ATTACH=full]1479286[/ATTACH] Tiberius AE As, AD 22-23, TI CAESAR DIVI AVG F AVGVST IMP VIII , bare head right, rev PONTIF MAXIM TRIBVN POTEST XXIIII around large SC, (RIC 44; BMC 91 Here's my latest Caligula that I don't believe I've shared yet. It's everyone's favorite evil emp with mother of Germanicus, making her Caligula's grandmother! [ATTACH=full]1479288[/ATTACH] Gaius Caligula, with Antonia, MACEDON. Thessalonica. 37-41. (Bronze, 22 mm, 9.95 g, 6 h). Γ KAIΣAP ΘEΣΣAΛONIKEΩN Laureate head of Caligula to left. Rev. ΑΝΤΩΝΙΑ ΣΕΒΑΣΤΗ Veiled head of Antonia II to left, wearing stephane. RPC I 1574. Brown patina. NVF. Purchased from Savoca November 2021 A scrubby rarity of our huckleberries: [ATTACH=full]1479284[/ATTACH] Germanicus, with Drusus Caesar MYSIA. Pergamon. 4 BC-AD 19. Ae. Obv: ΓEPMANIKOΣ KAIΣAP. Bare head of Germanicus right. Rev: ΔPOYΣOΣ KAIΣAP. Bare head of Drusus right. RPC I 2367. Condition: Near very fine. Weight: 3.33 g. Diameter: 17 mm. [MEDIA=youtube]sezc05A4s2g[/MEDIA] Please share your coins of the type, Germanicus or Drusus, Tiberius or Caligula, weird countermarks, theories and or coins so normal it's weird![/QUOTE]
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