What the Heck Are We Up Against With PM's?

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by fretboard, Mar 29, 2021.

  1. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    The truth is more people are investing in bit coin and thats taken away from
    gold and other PM,S that people would have purchased.
     
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  3. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    I agree. Premiums always stay up after an "event". They did the same 10 years ago, stay up too long because many were still buying. It will take some time for these newbies to lose interest, and supply will force prices back down. Right now I am just buying interesting coins that happen to be made of gold.
     
  4. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    For quasi-bullion coins -- like Saints -- the premiums tend to be HIGHEST when the underlying metal price is LOWER.

    MS65 Saint Pricing 1997-2020.jpg
     
  5. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    Well something like a 65 has its own numismatic demand, so from a bullion price perspective it would appear that way.
     
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  6. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Junior Member


    what "event"?
     
  7. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    An event like an economic shock. In the late 70s it was inflation, in 2008 it was housing shocks, and last year Covid. That is why I called it an event. Its something that panics people into buying pm.
     
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  8. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Junior Member


    maybe. the stock market sure seemed to do well compared to 2008. Wish I had dove deeper into the market
     
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  9. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Here's the 62 Chart:

    MS62 Saint Pricing 1997-2020.jpg
     
  10. jb10000lakes

    jb10000lakes Well-Known Member

    Just like housing. When interest rates are low, prices soar.
     
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  11. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Smart move and that's the way I've been buying lately. I'm hoping that this isn't a "sign of the times" forever. If it is we're in deep dookey! ;)
     
  12. mark943

    mark943 Member

    I also looked at BTC when it was sub $200. About that time a couple of wallets, or whatever they're called got hacked, and everyone lost everything. I decided to stack silver and gold instead. I can leave it for the kids and no one will be the wiser.
     
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  13. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Dollar cost averaging is still one of the best ways to play the PM market without getting roller coastered.

    There isn't much silver coinage available right now in shops even with these crazy premiums. But, I work estate sales. And we occasionally turn up unusual sterling. Now, if only I knew where to flip generic sterling (post-war silverware & tea sets are more common than anything else).

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  14. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    In a word nice :)
     
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  15. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Kitco just announced that the US Mint sold over 412K ounces of gold in the first quarter of 2021, the best in a long time. You tell me what's going on with pm's.
     
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  16. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    There way to high, regardless of how much they sold, excessive premiums are being
    driven by fear :(
     
  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Exactly! I just couldn't believe the announcement that's it's the best quarter the Mint has had for sales of expensive gold ounces since 1999.
     
  18. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    You don't know who is doing the buying.....could be replacement stocks for foreign Central Banks....Indian/Chinese gold buyers who took 2020 off because of Covid-19....stockpiling ahead of the 4th or 5th or 6th waves...whatever.:D
     
  19. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Correct but regardless of who the buyer(s) are it's the US Mints best quarter for gold bullion sales in 22 years.
     
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  20. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    That's the BOTTOM line !! :cigar:
     
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  21. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    We should have some anectdotal evidence of who is buying if not from the Mint, than from the coin publications talking to dealers.

    Maybe we even have some dealers here who sell AGEs and can chime in....?
     
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