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<p>[QUOTE="Clawcoins, post: 4263337, member: 77814"]okay.</p><p>I reread your first post.</p><p>First of all I do not agree that when the market goes up PMs go down and vice versa. It is far more complex than that if that was the case then the market has been going up for a long time, then gold should be free by now.</p><p><br /></p><p>Many large investors use PMs as a safe haven. In times of emergencies they reach for the cash which means selling the PMs (and everything else).</p><p><a href="https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-golds-plunge-proves-its-a-safe-haven-asset-2020-03-12?mod=commodities" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-golds-plunge-proves-its-a-safe-haven-asset-2020-03-12?mod=commodities" rel="nofollow">https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-golds-plunge-proves-its-a-safe-haven-asset-2020-03-12?mod=commodities</a></p><p><br /></p><p>But, contradicting it, in times of panic people also buy into PMs. It's just the large sellers are larger than the buyers.</p><p><br /></p><p>I used to buy ASEs all the time and I tracked Spot, versus the selling price. I would track when drops occurred and when finally the ASE price minimized premiums again. If you bought cheap rounds it was closer to spot, but it varies all dependent upon what type of silver you were after, which would also affect backside sales.</p><p><br /></p><p>The answer is ... there is NO Singular reason, it's a much more complex equation and there are multiple equations depending upon the impact factors. </p><p><br /></p><p>You know that people using metals such as Silver for various things. For instance, if you shut down a Solar Panel manufacturer, that then reduces their need of Silver. Silver is reliant more than gold in manufacturing and there's a larger continuous supply of it. </p><p>Then you have people who hedge PMs against currencies, and various other buyers/sellers of it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Normally spot price in converse of the US Dollar Index, not of the stock market. Hasn't the stock market, on average grown forever ? ... then Gold should be Free by now.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are many reasons for spot price to vary for many reasons.</p><p>So there is no one answer. It's just right now, the majority driver is cash is king for investors and hedgers.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Clawcoins, post: 4263337, member: 77814"]okay. I reread your first post. First of all I do not agree that when the market goes up PMs go down and vice versa. It is far more complex than that if that was the case then the market has been going up for a long time, then gold should be free by now. Many large investors use PMs as a safe haven. In times of emergencies they reach for the cash which means selling the PMs (and everything else). [URL]https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-golds-plunge-proves-its-a-safe-haven-asset-2020-03-12?mod=commodities[/URL] But, contradicting it, in times of panic people also buy into PMs. It's just the large sellers are larger than the buyers. I used to buy ASEs all the time and I tracked Spot, versus the selling price. I would track when drops occurred and when finally the ASE price minimized premiums again. If you bought cheap rounds it was closer to spot, but it varies all dependent upon what type of silver you were after, which would also affect backside sales. The answer is ... there is NO Singular reason, it's a much more complex equation and there are multiple equations depending upon the impact factors. You know that people using metals such as Silver for various things. For instance, if you shut down a Solar Panel manufacturer, that then reduces their need of Silver. Silver is reliant more than gold in manufacturing and there's a larger continuous supply of it. Then you have people who hedge PMs against currencies, and various other buyers/sellers of it. Normally spot price in converse of the US Dollar Index, not of the stock market. Hasn't the stock market, on average grown forever ? ... then Gold should be Free by now. There are many reasons for spot price to vary for many reasons. So there is no one answer. It's just right now, the majority driver is cash is king for investors and hedgers.[/QUOTE]
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