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<p>[QUOTE="Cloudsweeper99, post: 1112274, member: 3011"]Thanks for the example to prove my point. If China sells T-bonds, how will that cause "instant" inflation? I'd like to know the mechanism whereby that transaction increases the US money supply. Let's run through it... China sells the T-bonds to Japan. So what? Whether they pay with dollar reserves, yen, gold, or yuan, there is no increase in the money supply - just a transfer. Let's try another scenario where China sells the T-bonds in the USA. It probably drives down the price of the bonds temporarily [unless the Fed buys them] until the transaction is completed, and China gets $0.50 on the dollar in US dollars to spend and the pension funds or other buyers get T-bonds at a bargain price for their cash. If China spends the cash in the US for wheat, timber, cars, etc..., the economy improves -- this is what the Fed and US Treasury have been praying for for two years -- someone to spend money other than the Federal Government. Otherwise it is a wash if they reinvest it in the stock market or commerical real estate to create an investment boom. I guess we should send them a thank you note for that one. Another thing to consider is that a half trillion dollars in bonds isn't that big a deal anymore -- it's smaller than QE2. How does this transaction cause hyperinflation? It doesn't, except in the imagination of a few doom and gloom authors with no training in economics. Hyperinflation doesn't happen because someone sells existing bonds. Please explain the mechanism to us.</p><p><br /></p><p>Edit: One other thought... The most likely scenario might be that the US Treasury will purchase the bonds sold by China for some discount to par for a bulk sale, and pay for them by selling additional bonds to the Fed at par. This will instantly decrease the national debt by an amount greater than the new cash required to do so. Again, thank you China!!!</p><p><br /></p><p>Edit2: What I should have pointed out is that bond trading in the US exceeds $800billion per DAY. Even if China wanted to dump all of their holdings, it would just be a small blip on the long term chart although the psychological damage to the market could last for months.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Cloudsweeper99, post: 1112274, member: 3011"]Thanks for the example to prove my point. If China sells T-bonds, how will that cause "instant" inflation? I'd like to know the mechanism whereby that transaction increases the US money supply. Let's run through it... China sells the T-bonds to Japan. So what? Whether they pay with dollar reserves, yen, gold, or yuan, there is no increase in the money supply - just a transfer. Let's try another scenario where China sells the T-bonds in the USA. It probably drives down the price of the bonds temporarily [unless the Fed buys them] until the transaction is completed, and China gets $0.50 on the dollar in US dollars to spend and the pension funds or other buyers get T-bonds at a bargain price for their cash. If China spends the cash in the US for wheat, timber, cars, etc..., the economy improves -- this is what the Fed and US Treasury have been praying for for two years -- someone to spend money other than the Federal Government. Otherwise it is a wash if they reinvest it in the stock market or commerical real estate to create an investment boom. I guess we should send them a thank you note for that one. Another thing to consider is that a half trillion dollars in bonds isn't that big a deal anymore -- it's smaller than QE2. How does this transaction cause hyperinflation? It doesn't, except in the imagination of a few doom and gloom authors with no training in economics. Hyperinflation doesn't happen because someone sells existing bonds. Please explain the mechanism to us. Edit: One other thought... The most likely scenario might be that the US Treasury will purchase the bonds sold by China for some discount to par for a bulk sale, and pay for them by selling additional bonds to the Fed at par. This will instantly decrease the national debt by an amount greater than the new cash required to do so. Again, thank you China!!! Edit2: What I should have pointed out is that bond trading in the US exceeds $800billion per DAY. Even if China wanted to dump all of their holdings, it would just be a small blip on the long term chart although the psychological damage to the market could last for months.[/QUOTE]
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