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<p>[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 24867896, member: 73489"]Your post was excellent. I would add the following:</p><ul> <li>Gold historically has lagged stocks AND bonds because <b>it doesn't have a dividend or interest component.</b></li> </ul><p> <ul> <li><b>Only when one times the gold market </b>or if one was lucky to buy a large amount before a huge, multi-year run-up (i.e., 1972, 1985, 1999, 2002, 2015) can one make decent $$$.</li> </ul><p> <ul> <li><b><span style="color: #ff0000">When using ROLLING TIME PERIODS </span></b>-- which eliminates timing bias -- gold does horribly compared to stocks, bonds, and even real estate over longer time periods.</li> </ul><p> <ul> <li><b>Even for trophy coins purchased at advantageous times the returns rarely exceed 10%. </b> For many famous coins -- i.e., the 1933 Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle -- returns are mid-single digits for capital appreciation only. The Bass Proof Double Eagle (recently sold) is one coin that generated a stock-competitive return of 12% during the holding period.</li> </ul><p> <ul> <li>If one is buying gold for disaster insurance, <b>best to hold the actual metal rather than a paper ETF, even one in which the gold is custodian held.</b> In addition, at least to those reading this post here, presumably you have an interest in coins...<i>so why wouldn't you at least hold the metal in coin form, whether bullion, numismatic, or a combination of both ?</i></li> </ul><p></p><p><b><i>That said....I do think structural demand and supply issues are both leaning positively for the rest of the decade. </i></b>I think that gold can make a run at $3,000 by 2030 and maybe even more by 2035. Central bank, SWF, and other institutional and retail buying should support gold. </p><p><br /></p><p><b>Check out the increase in gold historically from 1 large country (India, see attached) and now add millions each year joining the ranks of the middle class in this 1 country alone. </b> That is lots more retail demand and more central bank and other buying to support that boost. India right now is buying 800 tons per year...a huge increase from earlier in the century and DOUBLE what it was just over 20 years ago. Add in 6-8% GDP growth (?) for a decade and you can imagine what formerly poor people might spend their dollars/rupees on. And I'm not even mentioning the demonetization currency fiasco they implemented a few years ago.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1595502[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 24867896, member: 73489"]Your post was excellent. I would add the following: [LIST] [*]Gold historically has lagged stocks AND bonds because [B]it doesn't have a dividend or interest component.[/B] [/LIST] [LIST] [*][B]Only when one times the gold market [/B]or if one was lucky to buy a large amount before a huge, multi-year run-up (i.e., 1972, 1985, 1999, 2002, 2015) can one make decent $$$. [/LIST] [LIST] [*][B][COLOR=#ff0000]When using ROLLING TIME PERIODS [/COLOR][/B]-- which eliminates timing bias -- gold does horribly compared to stocks, bonds, and even real estate over longer time periods. [/LIST] [LIST] [*][B]Even for trophy coins purchased at advantageous times the returns rarely exceed 10%. [/B] For many famous coins -- i.e., the 1933 Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle -- returns are mid-single digits for capital appreciation only. The Bass Proof Double Eagle (recently sold) is one coin that generated a stock-competitive return of 12% during the holding period. [/LIST] [LIST] [*]If one is buying gold for disaster insurance, [B]best to hold the actual metal rather than a paper ETF, even one in which the gold is custodian held.[/B] In addition, at least to those reading this post here, presumably you have an interest in coins...[I]so why wouldn't you at least hold the metal in coin form, whether bullion, numismatic, or a combination of both ?[/I] [/LIST] [B][I]That said....I do think structural demand and supply issues are both leaning positively for the rest of the decade. [/I][/B]I think that gold can make a run at $3,000 by 2030 and maybe even more by 2035. Central bank, SWF, and other institutional and retail buying should support gold. [B]Check out the increase in gold historically from 1 large country (India, see attached) and now add millions each year joining the ranks of the middle class in this 1 country alone. [/B] That is lots more retail demand and more central bank and other buying to support that boost. India right now is buying 800 tons per year...a huge increase from earlier in the century and DOUBLE what it was just over 20 years ago. Add in 6-8% GDP growth (?) for a decade and you can imagine what formerly poor people might spend their dollars/rupees on. And I'm not even mentioning the demonetization currency fiasco they implemented a few years ago. [ATTACH=full]1595502[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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