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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;krispy, post: 995120, member: 19065&quot;]I read every word of the original post prior to my first post. I read about your concern and seriously didn&#039;t find the risk of a hollowed out bar as great as the potential scenarios conceived around personal security thereafter. Cloud did nothing to inform my further posts. It is a valid point though that this was an inherently risky situation that defies much &#039;common sense&#039; to even have arranged it in the manner you described. By &#039;fears&#039; I meant the actions you felt were necessary after setting up a potentially risky in-person transaction from an unknown source you met over the internet. This may have led to a sense of needing to be cautious, whether you recognized that consciously or subconsciously beforehand or not. Fear for personal safety took hold (&quot;wanted to be on the safe side.&quot;), in <i>this</i> potentially risky scenario, and led you to arm yourself in the event of the worst case scenario. </p><p><br /></p><p>Worse things have happened as I&#039;m sure you know and the extreme examples were not really that extreme. Given the amount of money involved, a potential shooting or life lost isn&#039;t worth $2k especially when there are simple safer solutions available for buying PMs. However, with that said, I do not wish for anyone to doubt the honesty of their fellow man. I should hope you would take this transaction just as seriously if you were arranging to buy $2000 worth of diapers, milk or water. Somehow I don&#039;t think the vast majority in this situation think this way, clouded by the concept of the object (precious metals) to be acquired. </p><p><br /></p><p>Very few responses were <i>non-responsive</i>, just not what you want/wanted to hear or were prepared to follow the OP, but this is an open forum with many sides of the argument openly presented and the situation was far from simple, potentially taking any number of directions, many of which have been explored here but should not be dismissed. Again, I am at ease knowing that you had a positive experience and a friendly safe transaction was what presented you and the seller alike.</p><p><br /></p><p>I happen to disagree that members are <i>argumentative simply to be argumentative</i>. Overall, Cloud is the complete opposite of that comment. While you are still new here and getting used to different personalities and commentators that frequent these threads, a random sampling of Cloud&#039;s posts will show that in most cases he is simply stating facts, correcting inaccuracies of others&#039; comments or their misunderstanding of certain facts and in so doing shares information for others not to be misled-- least of all to outright take and stranger&#039;s words for something from an online forum. In fact, when he seems unclear on a point, he says so in a questioning manner, openly and willing to be corrected if someone can explain better about a given topic being discussed. Above all, he presents information to suggest each person do their homework and cautions others from hasty decisions arriving from erroneous ideas about investing, collecting, economics, etc. </p><p><br /></p><p>Overall, there are scores of valid and reasoned points of view expressed in these forums, some clearer and others more/less biased than others&#039; opinions and experiences. Sometimes we don&#039;t want to hear those things from others having come to our own &#039;best&#039; conclusions and ultimately that&#039;s all we can do is act accordingly to our own best judgement but that still doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s the only recourse. I think it&#039;s great we can share pros and cons openly and let the lurkers, YNs and those in question see the reasoning for all sides willing to share. Without the OP and these forums we would have none of this. :thumb:[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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