two coins of Bela III of Hungary

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by chrsmat71, Nov 24, 2015.

  1. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    both of these purchases were inspired by some of you bad influences here at cointalk.

    @FitzNigel thread on a coin of william ii with an arabic legend...

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/medieval-william-ii-of-norman-sicily.269885/

    i asked about a coin of bela iii of hungary that also has a pseudo/imitative (see the thread above) and mentioned that i didn't have one of the type. that has been remedied.

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    HUNGARY, Bela III, 1172-1196 AD, Arabic style
    Pseudo-Arabic legends on both sides. 24 mm, 2.4 g


    this thread by @John Anthony reminded me that i wanted a type of coin i had seen before, but didn't know the name for..."bracteate". if interested, see his thread for a discussion of the type.

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/swiss-bracteate-of-gallen-abbey-1295-1301.269943/

    may not have been minted during bela ii reign, these all are attributed to bela iii though his grandson bela iv.


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    Bela III - Bela IV of Hungary, 1172-1270 AD, AR Bracteate
    Head right, reverse incuse of obverse. Unger 122. 16 mm, 0.4 g

    this thing is so thin, i get nervous every time i handle it! interesting style coin, i don't own anything quite like it.

    post anything you want that is vaguely related.

    bela iii, arabic but not, 12-13th century, very thin...whatev as stevex would say. :woot:
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Interesting that the coins are both Arabic and I would say Western style with a portrait of the ruler (not allowed in the Muslim faith). I don't collect these, but they are interesting. Congratulations.
     
  4. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    If that's what Bela IV looked like, ouch! He obviously could not afford a good plastic surgeon even though he was a king. Just kidding, awesome coins!
     
  5. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    the first coin imitates the arabic language, but both were minted by christians...so no problems with the images on a silver coin.

    i haven't found an explanation of the head sallent, plus it hasn't been pinned down to a specific ruler..so don't know.

    hey, you did some great detective work with that ass mark on your RR coin sallent..i have a project for you.:woot:
     
  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Very nice additions indeed! That one and only bracteate that I handled recently certainly did seem fragile. Spink had it delivered in a jewelry box, and that's probably the best way to store these things. Putting them in flips and squeezing them into a box or folder page seems like they would be in danger of getting flattened or bent. As you know by your example, they're paper-thin.
     
  7. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    that's a good idea, i was concerned about storage.
     
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