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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Del Pinto, post: 2376150, member: 73128&quot;]I think you got that here:</p><p><a href="http://about.ag/tulving.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://about.ag/tulving.htm" rel="nofollow">http://about.ag/tulving.htm</a></p><p><br /></p><p>That AboutAg character is full of it; in the past, he&#039;s peddled garbage theories and nonsense around the Internet - and he&#039;s still a defender of Hannes. Utterly despicable!</p><p><br /></p><p>The &quot;mysterious debt&quot; appears much less sinister now we all know it was tax fraud/ accounting shenanigans w/ the landlord, a couple of million dollars. The devil&#039;s in the details though, and now AboutAg must eat crow: Tulving was insolvent and in crisis back in 2010, according to the latest revelations. It stands to reason, Tulving started &quot;borrowing&quot; his customers&#039; stored custodial bullion as far back as 2010, trying to keep his company afloat. By late 2010, Tulving also secretly structured whatever loans from the landlord - so we know (and now even AboutAg can no longer deny it!) Tulving was million$ deep in debt by 2011. As custodial customers &quot;sold&quot; in 2012 and 2013, Hannes had to juggle ever more furiously - and the earliest warnings he had ALREADY stolen-from-Peter-to-pay-Paul appeared in sporadic complaints from Summer 2012.&nbsp; What&#039;s the normal squeaky wheel complaint ratio: 1/25 disgruntled customers? Tell-tale signs of the Tulving Fraud were mounting in August 2012...</p><p><br /></p><p>AboutAg has and continues to vigorously defend Tulving in the face of obvious chicanery, thusly: &quot;He didn&#039;t have yachts or mansions or a Rolls Royces!&quot; I laughed reading that - although it&#039;s probably immaterial to the victims, and <i>how Tulving spent the money</i> is irrelevant, this &quot;private investigator&quot; betrays an incredible naïveté that can scarcely be believed in 2016.</p><p><br /></p><p>Nevermind the classic behavior (permanent short-tempered rage, gross/ pathological irresponsibility, catastrophic money probs, etc., etc.) and a long-standing, secret, furtive financial drain which could easily exceed $200k a year... over the decades it sure adds up.</p><p><br /></p><p>Tulving never slept.</p><p>Tulving <i>never</i> slept.</p><p>Tulving never slept?</p><p><br /></p><p>There&#039;s a word for people like that, and no it isn&#039;t precisely <i>insomniac: </i>that&#039;s just a symptom. Oh yeah, everyone admits his &quot;health issue&quot; but has anyone here seen his doctor&#039;s records? Plus, he got time off for &quot;coming clean&quot; and agreed to court supervision, lol, that sounds familiar too.</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m guessing the forensic investigator didn&#039;t want to broach the obvious because it might damage Tulving&#039;s reputation, or something like that... and it&#039;s considered a disability - gotta stay pc, too!</p><p><br /></p><p>Where do <i>you</i> think the money went?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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