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<p>[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 2355233, member: 73489"]<b>I am well-familiar with Madoff since my bank would look at him from time-to-time and decide if we would place client's money with him (we never did).</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Assuming Tulving did not speculate on commodity prices, and assuming he never got burned shorting a rising market or getting caught buying lots of metal before a big plunge, I have to think that he did what Madoff did: <i>rather than 'fess up to a small 1-time hit to the balance sheet/income statement from some losses in whatever or just a decline in general sales, he tried to cover it up and hoped to get bailed out later on.</i></p><p><br /></p><p>In theory....if Tulving simply marks up coins to make a commission...he isn't taking any commodity risk. His only overhead is space rent, employee salaries, his salary, etc. But if business dries up, commissions on coins can be insufficient to cover expenses. Changing preferences -- from more lucrative products (numismatics) to less profitable (bullion) -- could also explain a problem.</p><p><br /></p><p>Then you try and make up for a decline in general revenues by taking on more risk -- like outright commodity speculation or buying a bunch of coins that you think will go up and give you plenty of inventory -- and if the market moves against you, you are dead. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I don't know the specifics, but the general pattern looks familiar.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 2355233, member: 73489"][B]I am well-familiar with Madoff since my bank would look at him from time-to-time and decide if we would place client's money with him (we never did).[/B] Assuming Tulving did not speculate on commodity prices, and assuming he never got burned shorting a rising market or getting caught buying lots of metal before a big plunge, I have to think that he did what Madoff did: [I]rather than 'fess up to a small 1-time hit to the balance sheet/income statement from some losses in whatever or just a decline in general sales, he tried to cover it up and hoped to get bailed out later on.[/I] In theory....if Tulving simply marks up coins to make a commission...he isn't taking any commodity risk. His only overhead is space rent, employee salaries, his salary, etc. But if business dries up, commissions on coins can be insufficient to cover expenses. Changing preferences -- from more lucrative products (numismatics) to less profitable (bullion) -- could also explain a problem. Then you try and make up for a decline in general revenues by taking on more risk -- like outright commodity speculation or buying a bunch of coins that you think will go up and give you plenty of inventory -- and if the market moves against you, you are dead. :yack: I don't know the specifics, but the general pattern looks familiar.[/QUOTE]
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