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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Del Pinto, post: 2352735, member: 73128&quot;]No, Hannes isn&#039;t &quot;suing anybody&quot; for slander or defamation - that&#039;s NUTS.&nbsp; He&#039;s a <i>thrice-convicted </i><b>crook</b>! (Specifically, a fraudster, a schemer, a thief, a liar and a cheat.) I do wonder if he&#039;ll be up to his old tricks again c. 2018, given his history at it.</p><p><br /></p><p>It&#039;s amazing that any legit bullionist would be defending Tulving in 2015. But imrich has, for a decade or so? (Search function here proves it.) Utterly bizarre.&nbsp; Among many examples, &quot;best in the biz!&quot;</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/hannes-tulving-slabs.137877/#post-1027677" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/hannes-tulving-slabs.137877/#post-1027677">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/hannes-tulving-slabs.137877/#post-1027677</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I have a few questions. <i>We know</i> Tulving <u>did it before</u>: didn&#039;t pay full restitution to the victims then either. Where does it say he must pay, this time? We shall see, <i>in 90 days</i>...</p><p><br /></p><p>The forensics financial experts either couldn&#039;t unravel the mess or simply won&#039;t publish their findings to aid other would-be con-artists. Hannes was either cunning or dim (&#039;stealing from Peter, to pay Paul&#039; over ~20 years: just managing, fanning the Cult of Hannes, etc.) I think the coin public deserves to know which.&nbsp; But it bothers me more that Tulving was been given a pass, back in the 90s... why not again?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So, what? Out on good behavior in under 9 months, and he must stay away from kiddie playgrounds? That doesn&#039;t sound like he&#039;s banned from selling numismatics (grifter&#039;s choice) to me and if his perennial fan club here is any indication, why wouldn&#039;t he &quot;sell&quot; again? He knows the memory of you people is short, and often dim. He&#039;s done it before, lol!</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Does the company still exist? Was it sold? If so, would the new owner assume that burden? Certain assets were sold, the name, customer lists, etc. but that was a few years ago I think.</p><p><br /></p><p>R. Todd Neilson indicated a valuation of $7,367,235 for the 12,539 Presidential Missing Edge Letter Coins as provided by Miles Standish (“Standish Valuation”), which will fall under the auctioneer&#039;s hammer in the coming months. Recall the Secret Service had estimated $3 mln, and some delusional coin collectors counter-claimed $20 mln.&nbsp; Keep watch, learn the truth! (Spot-checking the valuation, Neilson confirmed some of these coins sold for less than 10% the estimate.) And he doesn&#039;t mention it here, but who paid for his investigation - aren&#039;t <i>cash proceeds to victims</i> net all costs? I&#039;m guessing the average Tulving victim gets less than 10 cents on the Dollar after all&#039;s said and done, but again, Judge Cogburn hasn&#039;t ruled on restitution yet.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Exactly how </i>will Hannes make whole these poor &quot;investors&quot;? <i>&#039;Hey, I have an idea...&#039;</i> lol</p><p><a href="http://tulvingbankruptcy.com/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://tulvingbankruptcy.com/" rel="nofollow">http://tulvingbankruptcy.com/</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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