TPG Conservation of Nickel Coinage

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by ToughCOINS, Dec 24, 2021.

  1. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    BadThad, posted: "You're overthinking it, it's simple and also applies to toning."

    I'm not overthinking anything.;) I just added a bunch of nonsense o_O to make a point. ALL CONSERVATION is some form of cleaning, repairing. replacing, surface alteration, etc. Thus we are in 100% agreement - it's simple. However, your example of toning is NOT THE SAME AT ALL. :(

    "A coin is either considered market acceptable or not - regardless what you call about the journey there.

    "Market acceptability" is a TPGS :shifty: crutch to cover our butts because oxidation is either 100% natural (no matter how long it took) or not natural. Much of the time it is hard to know which it actually is. :jawdrop: The same cannot be said for conservation because in many cases of proper conservation the coin looks 100% natural as if it were never touched. So it is either CLEANED or NOT. Just because some cleaned coins are "market :shifty: acceptable" does not indicate they are not cleaned BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN CLEANED IS VISIBLE! :smuggrin:

    That is why I much prefer to use the terms "cleaned" for not market acceptable and "conserved" for a market acceptable coin. It's a simple matter of colloquial nomenclature for convenience in discussion
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    You are free to use any words you wish. Just understand that the conserved coin has been altered - most often by a simple, undetectable cleaning.

    It's simple.

    As for the 1955-S 1c you asked me about... There is no way to determine the answer as you'll get opinions one way or the other by every famous, knowledgeable, professional numismatist, copper collector/dealer, etc.

    But I will not duck an honest question.

    I do not like the two-toned coin and would not keep it. It looks chemically treated; however, (thanks for tipping it in the light) if it came into the grading room I should give it a high, straight, RB grade. :angelic:
     
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  3. chris r walker

    chris r walker New Member

    I have what i believe to be a very rare coin, a double punch 1964 Jefferson nickel with the N and T missing from Monticello and would appreciate a professional opinion
     
  4. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated Supporter

    Start a new thread, in either ERROR COINS or WHAT'S IT WORTH?. Post clear, cropped, close-up photos of the front (obverse) and back(reverse).

    Folks will let you know what you've got. Be forewarned, 1964 nickels are very common and a lot of damage can occur in a half-century of circulation.
     
  5. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    SSSsssshhhhhl...1955-S ancient Chinese secret!

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  6. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Buck three eighty five times two because it's punched twice. But then you have to deduct 20% for the missing N and T (some bad luck there).
     
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  7. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated Supporter

    Is "from the horse's mouth" the same as a "professional opinion"?
     
  8. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It's as close to any opinion he's going to get from this horse if I can't see the coin.
     
  9. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    NCS, in my opinion, does their best work with NICKELS. I had one nickel conserved that had PVC on it. Check out the photos...completely gone as if it never existed.

    I don't normally recommend silver coins be conserved because NCS tends to leave them looking unnaturally shiny. However, for nickels? NCS is the best.

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  10. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me


    Tsk tsk tsk, Joe. Without a before and after shot how can we determine the efficacy of your claim? ;)
     
  11. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    unfortunately i never took a before shot :(
     
  12. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

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  13. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    I agree and also use those terms cleaned vs. conserved.
     
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  14. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I didn’t get half way through you text before I said to myself @Lehigh96 Darn. Old thread.
     
  15. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

  16. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    There’s no two ways about it
     
  17. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Damn. I did it again paddy
     
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