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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;sakata, post: 2699301, member: 23778&quot;]That is the question.&nbsp; Whether &#039;tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, or to take arms against ....</p><p><br /></p><p>Well, at this point in the quote you pick your own antagonist.&nbsp; Because let&#039;s be honest, all stackers have some antagonist. For some it is the government, for others the banking system.&nbsp; For some it is just &quot;the system&quot;, whatever that may be.&nbsp; This post is intended to be one person&#039;s take on the who, what, when, why, where and how you should stack.&nbsp; There has been several threads alluding to this recently. Clearly not everyone will agree with my point of view (in fact it is obvious that some are very antagonistic to it) but I hope it can be a starting point for civilized discussion so that we can open the minds of people who are not sure whether they should be stacking or not.&nbsp; I would like to think that this thread could be a resource for future new members as well as current ones.</p><p><br /></p><p>The way I look at it if you are going to stack, whatever you are stacking, you are expecting something to collapse. You can stack PMs or edible commodities or many other things: it doesn&#039;t matter, these arguments apply. If the status quo is being maintained then there is no reason to stack anything.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>But what people expect to collapse can vary considerably.&nbsp; I am going to address three main ones, there may be others: societal collapse, financial collapse, environmental collapse. These are very different and require different approaches.&nbsp; But each, to some degree or other, involves what people on this forum generally think of as stacking.&nbsp; To be clear, let me say what I believe each of these entails.&nbsp; You personally may not be concerned about each or any of these, but others are so bear with me.&nbsp; If you are not interested in stacking then I would respectfully request that you let this thread be a discussion among those who are instead of belittling those who feel the need to consider it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Societal collapse will occur when we reach the point that two halves of society can no longer live peaceably together.&nbsp; These halves may be split based on income, race, religion or any of a number of other things.&nbsp; I think it distinctly possible that the powers that be are trying to encourage this, but I personally am not sure I see it happening.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Financial collapse is when the financial world implodes and the dollar becomes worthless.&nbsp; I do think this is going to happen: whether it happens in our lifetime (for those of us of a certain age) I am not sure, but it will happen.&nbsp; It is mathematically impossible for the USA to pay off its debt: once it is no longer the world&#039;s reserve currency (and that will happen because changes occur, on average, once every eighty or so year) it is certain that the dollar will collapse.</p><p><br /></p><p>Environmental collapse is when the infrastructure or the grid collapses and we no longer have access to basic necessities such as power and energy.&nbsp; Many people think this is imminent because we are long overdue for a CME, and if nuclear war were to break out there would like be a large scale EMP. I do think it possible, but I am not as convince as many of its immediacy.</p><p><br /></p><p>I would like to point out that I am not advocating any of these.&nbsp; I have my opinions but I am trying to be impartial in this post and to present a point of view which allows all people, regardless of their reason for considering stacking, to be able to get a good take on what is needed.&nbsp; So, that said, let me begin with a summary.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><u>Societal Collapse</u></p><p><br /></p><p>If this happens people will be going against one another.&nbsp; The inner cities will be chaos and you don&#039;t want to be there.&nbsp; The suburbs will not be much fun either.&nbsp; Rural areas will fair better but will still have problems getting supplies because most of those originate from the cities.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>More than anything else you will need a way to protect yourself and feed yourself.&nbsp; Those in states which don&#039;t allow the ownership of firearms will be at a disadvantage so neighborhood groups are going to be essential.&nbsp; In this case you need to stack friendships and supplies.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Bullion will probably be of little use but bartering will probably take place.&nbsp; Junk silver will be useful for barter.&nbsp; But the most important things to stack will be those things which keep you alive: food, clean water and medicine.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><u>Financial Collapse</u></p><p><br /></p><p>If the financial world implodes then the dollar become useless and it will be impossible to buy anything with fiat.&nbsp; This has happened several times in recent history.&nbsp; Weimar and Zimbabwe are perhaps the most well known.&nbsp; You will need a way to protect your assets.&nbsp; Junk silver may or may not be of value to you depending on how things pan out, but I would recommend having some: perhaps enough to provide you will whatever that same money would buy in 1964 dollars for a period of six months.&nbsp; Bullion will not be of much value in the short term, but should see you through when there is a recovery.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Let me remind you that the dollar is propped up by the fact that it is the world&#039;s reserve currency.&nbsp; Over the last 500 years we have has several reserve currencies with an average survival of around 80 years.&nbsp; Those 80 year are up for the US dollar in 2025.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><u>Environmental Collapse</u></p><p><br /></p><p>In this case the infrastructure the the country will collapse. Lot&#039;s of scientists are saying that we are way overdue for a CME (Coronal Mass Expulsion) and we barely missed getting one last year.&nbsp; If this happens the entire grid could be wiped out and there would be no energy anywhere: no electricity, no gasoline, no ability to deliver supplies. The USA does not make the equipment required to bring it back online so it could take years.&nbsp; Another concern some have is that there will be a nuclear war with resulting EMPs.&nbsp; I am not expressing an opinion on whether this is likely or not, but if it does happen then there will be a short term down time (months) but also major radiation</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Again, I am merely enumerating the issues without being a proponent of any of them.&nbsp; I do think there is a possibility of one of these three happening in my lifetime.&nbsp; How high a possibility I don&#039;t know. Probably not too high, but </p><p>high enough to want to be prepared.&nbsp; So what things can we all stack in order to protect ourselves from these possibilities?&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Let&#039;s say right up front:&nbsp; SILVER and GOLD are not high on the list.&nbsp; So what is?&nbsp; What must you do before even considering stacking precious metals?&nbsp; Again, one person&#039;s opinion, but I hope the starting point for a discussion.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><u>Essentials</u></p><p><br /></p><p>Don&#039;t even think of buying any precious metals until all the following are taken care of:</p><p><br /></p><p>1. Be totally debt free, including a mortgage.&nbsp; If financial collapse is the poison then those who own anything are in trouble.&nbsp; The banks are not going to forgive the debt.</p><p><br /></p><p>2. Own land outright which allows you to provide for yourself.&nbsp; This includes the ability to grow food, generate energy and get clean water.&nbsp; The food will be needed for both societal and environmental collapse.&nbsp; The energy will be needed for environmental collapse.</p><p><br /></p><p>3. Have the ability to protect yourself, probably through firearms and sufficient ammunition.&nbsp; This will be needed in case of societal collapse.&nbsp; If you are not legally allowed this where you live then move.</p><p><br /></p><p>4. Be fully stocked up on several years supply of medical necessities. Get off of prescription drugs if at all possible. These will be needed in all cases.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Only if you can say you have covered all of these 100% should you consider stacking precious metals. I could go into a lot more detail than this and if this threads develops into a discussion I will be prepared to do so. I would like this to be a civil discussion on why people feel they should stack and under what conditions they feel that should happen.&nbsp; My opinions are not necessarily correct.&nbsp; But I have spent well over a decade thinking and reading widely on these matters.&nbsp; I, myself, am prepared for almost anything and think I can survive almost anything except for complete nuclear annihalation.</p><p><br /></p><p>But again: if you are 100% percent against this whole concept then please refrain from posting. I do know want this thread sidetracked by discussion about how stupid people are for not believing in the powers that be.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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