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<p>[QUOTE="fatima, post: 1436133, member: 22143"]You created a red herring situation to justify your belief that a party should only hold paper investments. An economic collapse, sovereign bankruptcy, bad management driving an investment fund into the ground doesn't mean Armageddon. Most people holding gold are not holding it for the end of the world scenario.</p><p><br /></p><p>What physical gold does do for you is that it removes all counterparty and judicial risk from your investments. A very good example exists in our own history. In 1933, FDR made all domestic transactions in gold dollars illegal and ordered the people to the banks to turn in their $20 gold coins in return for a $20 Federal Reserve Note. All contracts and investments on paper that were denominated and specified to be paid gold dollars were retroactively changed to FRN USD. </p><p><br /></p><p>So you say, OK, but the value of what I had didn't change. Oh but it did. Shortly after this took place, FDR then revalued the gold dollars that he paid the people $20 for to $35. Since the rest of the world still used gold, everyone in the USA lost 70% of the value of their paper investments and paper $s instantly. This transfer of wealth to the Federal government was then used to pay for all the social programs created during the 1930s. </p><p><br /></p><p>For the smart ones, the ones who kept their gold $s, you could go to Mexico, Canada, or Europe exchange the gold you kept for $35. For the suckers that had Federal Reserve notes, their paper was only worth $20. Holding physical gold also removes your wealth from "the system". It makes it very hard for someone to take it from you. </p><p><br /></p><p>This is a long ago example and one not to be repeated again but it is a very good example of what counter party risk means. If there had been a GLD investment at the time, you would have lost out there too. This is why people hold gold. It's not because they are afraid a CME is coming to destroy the national grid, but instead, to protect themselves against a financial system that people are losing faith in. </p><p><br /></p><p>BTW, in your example $100,000 is just 3 rolls of AGEs. It's not that hard to store and the last thing you would want to do is to buy insurance for it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="fatima, post: 1436133, member: 22143"]You created a red herring situation to justify your belief that a party should only hold paper investments. An economic collapse, sovereign bankruptcy, bad management driving an investment fund into the ground doesn't mean Armageddon. Most people holding gold are not holding it for the end of the world scenario. What physical gold does do for you is that it removes all counterparty and judicial risk from your investments. A very good example exists in our own history. In 1933, FDR made all domestic transactions in gold dollars illegal and ordered the people to the banks to turn in their $20 gold coins in return for a $20 Federal Reserve Note. All contracts and investments on paper that were denominated and specified to be paid gold dollars were retroactively changed to FRN USD. So you say, OK, but the value of what I had didn't change. Oh but it did. Shortly after this took place, FDR then revalued the gold dollars that he paid the people $20 for to $35. Since the rest of the world still used gold, everyone in the USA lost 70% of the value of their paper investments and paper $s instantly. This transfer of wealth to the Federal government was then used to pay for all the social programs created during the 1930s. For the smart ones, the ones who kept their gold $s, you could go to Mexico, Canada, or Europe exchange the gold you kept for $35. For the suckers that had Federal Reserve notes, their paper was only worth $20. Holding physical gold also removes your wealth from "the system". It makes it very hard for someone to take it from you. This is a long ago example and one not to be repeated again but it is a very good example of what counter party risk means. If there had been a GLD investment at the time, you would have lost out there too. This is why people hold gold. It's not because they are afraid a CME is coming to destroy the national grid, but instead, to protect themselves against a financial system that people are losing faith in. BTW, in your example $100,000 is just 3 rolls of AGEs. It's not that hard to store and the last thing you would want to do is to buy insurance for it.[/QUOTE]
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