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<p>[QUOTE="mumu, post: 1634323, member: 24620"]You are using the rules of the very system we are debating as proof for the system. Why cant we cut a gemstone in half and retain equal value? Because of the stone itself? No its because we simply decided and agreed that bigger stones were worth more. There is no innate reason a 5 karat stone is worth more than 5 1 karat stones other than people have the luxury, because they do not lack other neccesities, to pursue the larger more rare stones. But its not simply the stone that makes it so. Now if stones were money some day instead of jewelry, the 5 smaller units might make for better bartering items and as such might overtake the larger stone in value.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for your cotton argument, our technology has made it "not finite" for any given point relative to our needs. This does not make something infinite, which is the only opposite of finite. So you cannot argue my point that cotton is finite unless you are saying it is infinite. I cant imagine that you are saying that as you seem fairly intelligent. In any case the same technological advances has increased the available gold that is mineable. So no maybe we cant just grow gold the way we can cotton. But the same way our technology allowes us to grow cotton, it is improving our ability to find gold. Gold was once "mined" by finding large rocks of mostly gold and that was what "finding gold" was and that was all the gold that was mineable. Today we extract gold at miniscule ratios from rocks that are 99% some other material. We may one day be able to mine gold on other planets or asteroids, and as such it is arbituary to call it rare at any time and place. I can assure you by then, unless we have similar finds, water will be more rare and more neccesary than gold.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="mumu, post: 1634323, member: 24620"]You are using the rules of the very system we are debating as proof for the system. Why cant we cut a gemstone in half and retain equal value? Because of the stone itself? No its because we simply decided and agreed that bigger stones were worth more. There is no innate reason a 5 karat stone is worth more than 5 1 karat stones other than people have the luxury, because they do not lack other neccesities, to pursue the larger more rare stones. But its not simply the stone that makes it so. Now if stones were money some day instead of jewelry, the 5 smaller units might make for better bartering items and as such might overtake the larger stone in value. As for your cotton argument, our technology has made it "not finite" for any given point relative to our needs. This does not make something infinite, which is the only opposite of finite. So you cannot argue my point that cotton is finite unless you are saying it is infinite. I cant imagine that you are saying that as you seem fairly intelligent. In any case the same technological advances has increased the available gold that is mineable. So no maybe we cant just grow gold the way we can cotton. But the same way our technology allowes us to grow cotton, it is improving our ability to find gold. Gold was once "mined" by finding large rocks of mostly gold and that was what "finding gold" was and that was all the gold that was mineable. Today we extract gold at miniscule ratios from rocks that are 99% some other material. We may one day be able to mine gold on other planets or asteroids, and as such it is arbituary to call it rare at any time and place. I can assure you by then, unless we have similar finds, water will be more rare and more neccesary than gold.[/QUOTE]
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