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  1. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Do you have any not on the list? It seems there should be a pre-reform Constantius I since there is a Galerius. It might be good to show the ones you have that the rest of us may not know. For example, I liked seeing that countermarked altar which reminded me of my Augustus as c/m by Tiberius.
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  3. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I can certainly provide some oddities that people may not have seen.

    I will take up the Constantius I coinage as a series for example:-

    The late issues from Lugdunum pre-reform certainly do contain coins of Constantius I as Caesar. These are generally relatively scarce.

    Obv:– FL VAL CONSTANTIVS NOB C, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– PROVIDENT DEOR, Providentia, standing left, holding baton and scepter; at foot globe
    Minted in Lugdunum (Thunderbolt in exe). Emission 10, Officina 1.
    References– RIC V Pt. 2 Lugdunum 635 Bust Type C. Bastien 493 (18 examples cited)

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    Same type as above but....
    Minted in Lugdunum (A in exe). Emission 10, Officina 1. 1st March A.D. 293 to 20th November A.D. 293
    References– Cohen 237. RIC V Pt. 2 Lugdunum 635 Bust Type C. Bastien 506 (19 examples cited)

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    Obv:– CONSTANTIVS NOB C, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– PAX AVGG, Pax, standing left, holding olive branch and scepter
    Minted in Lugdunum (//A). Emission 12, Series 2, Officina 1. A.D. 294
    Reference:– Cohen -. Bastien 614 (3 examples cited). RIC V Pt. 2 Lugdunum 634

    Note:- The Pax type for all emperors in these late issues from Lugdunum change from the holding Victoriola and transverse sceptre from the earlier issues (as illustrated by Doug above) to holding an olive branch and upright sceptre.

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    Here are contemporary Diocletian and Max. Herc.
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    Obv:– CONSTANTIVS NOB C, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– COMES AVGG, Minerva standing left, holding olive-branch and spear and resting left hand on shield
    Minted in Lugdunum (B in exe). Emission 12, Officina 2. A.D. 294
    References– Cohen 12. RIC V Pt. 2 Lugdunum 627 Bust Type C. Bastien 629 (9 examples cited)

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  4. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Post reform there are some issues that precede the uniform looking coinage that makes up the mass of the post reform output of the Tetrarchy.......

    There are some coins which have been attributed to both Lugdunum and London which are unmarked. RIC allocates these to Ludunum, Bastien does not though he does include them in an Annex.

    Obv:– FL VAL CONSTNTIVS NOB C, Laureate bust right
    Rev:– GENIO POP-VLI ROMANI, Genius standing left, holding patera and cornucopia
    Minted in Lugdunum (-). c. A.D. 296
    References:– RIC VI Lugdunum 17a. Bastien XI Annex AN8

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    They can be seen to be stylistically similar to the early post-reform issues of Lugdunum

    Obv:– CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES, Laureate bust right
    Rev:– GENIO POPVLI ROMANI, Genius standing left, holding patera and cornucopia
    Minted in Lugdunum (LA in exe). A.D. 295
    References:– RIC VI Lugdunum 6 (scarce). Bastien XI 16 legend break i

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    Obv:– CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES, Laureate bust right
    Rev:– GENIO POPVLI ROMANI, Genius standing left, modius on head, naked but for chalmys over left shoulder, right holding patera, left cornucopia
    Minted in Lugdunum (B in left field, PL in exe). A.D. 298
    References:– RIC VI Lugdunum 53a. Bastien XI 68 legend break iii (9 examples cited)
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    Soon after this we see a homogenisation of the style for the portraits

    Obverse Legend –CONSTANTIVS NOB C, Laureate, cuirassed bust right
    Reverse Legend – GENIO POP-VLI ROMANI, Genius standing left, modius on head, naked but for chalmys over left shoulder, right holding patera over altar, left cornucopia
    Minted in Lugdunum (_ | B /PLC). A.D. 301-303
    Reference:– RIC VI Lugdunum 164a. Bastien XI 346 legend break ii

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    Obv:- CONSTANTIVS NOB C, Laureate, cuirassed bust left, with sceptre over right shoulder
    Rev:– GENIO POP-VLI ROMANI, Genius standing left, modius on head, naked but for chalmys over left shoulder, right holding patera over altar, left cornucopia
    Minted in Lugdunum (_ | A /PLC). A.D. 301-303
    Reference:– RIC VI Lugdunum 167a

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    Leading ultimately to posthumous issues

    Obverse Legend – DIVO CONSTANTIO PIO, Laureate, bust right
    Reverse Legend – CONSECRATIO, Eagle standing up with head up and wings spread on altar
    Minted in Lugdunum (PLG in exe.). Summer A.D. 307 to Summer A.D. 308
    Reference:– RIC VI Lugdunum 251 (Scarce). Bastien XI 436 (4 examples cited)

    Weight 6.96 gms.
    Size 22.22mm on Obv. X-Axis, 22.94mm in Obv. Y-Axis

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    Obverse Legend – DIVO CONSTANTIO PIO. Laureate, veiled and cuirassed head right
    Reverse Legend – MEMORIA FELIX. Lighted altar; eagle to left and right
    Minted in Lugdunum (PLC). Autumn A.D. 307 - Summer A.D. 308
    Reference:- RIC VI Lugdunum 264 (Scarce). Bastien XI 499

    Weight:- 5.87 gms
    Size:- X-Axis 26.98mm, Y-Axis 23.81mm

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  5. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Severus II
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    Severus II (Caesar)
    Coin: Bronze Follis
    SEVERVS NOB C - laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right
    GENIO POP-VLI ROMANI - Genius standing left by altar, modius on head, naked but for chlamys over left shoulder, holding patera and cornucopiae. Star in right field.
    Exergue:pLG
    Mint: Lyons (AD 305-306)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 11.16g / 28mm / -
    References:
    • RIC VI Lyons 199a
    • Sear 14632
     
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    This one is ex- @Bing :

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    Augustus, 27 BC - AD 14.
    Roman Æ as, 8.41 g, 26.1 mm, 10 h.
    Lugdunum, 10 BC - 6 BC.
    Obv: CAESAR PONT MAX, laureate head, right.
    Rev: ROM ET AVG, altar of Roma and Augustus, flanked by two columns, each surmounted by a statue of Victory.
    Refs: RIC 230; BMCRE 549-556; Cohen 240; RCV 1690; CBN 1634.

    And y'all have seen this one before somewhere, I think! ;)

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    Tiberius, AD 14-37.
    Roman AR Denarius; 3.87 g, 18.5 mm.
    Lugdunum, AD 16-37.
    Obv: TI CAESAR DIVI AVG F AVGVSTVS, laureate head, right.
    Rev: PONTIF MAXIM, Livia, as pax, seated right, holding long olive branch and inverted spear; legs of chair ornate, triple line below.
    Refs: RIC 28; BMCRE 45; RCV 1763 var.
     
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  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    VRBS ROMA Commemorative

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    RI ROMA CE 330-331Commem AE Follis 2.6g 20x16mm Lugdunum VRBS ROMA She-wolf Twins Stars RIC VII 247 Left
     
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  8. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Great coins all.

    Diocletian
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    Constantius Chlorus
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    Julian II
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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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  10. Julius Germanicus

    Julius Germanicus Well-Known Member

    The Sestertius of Tiberius from the Lugdunum mint is highly sought after. As it is the only large bronze portrait coin of Tiberius ever struck anywhere, there is no substitute for a portrait series of Sestertii.
    Outnumbered by Paduans and forgeries 100:1, surviving specimens are usually very worn, such as mine:

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    TI CAESAR AVGVSTI F IMPERATOR V - bare head of Tiberius left /
    ROM ET AVG - The great Altar of Roma and Augustus at Lugdunum, flanked by columns surmounted by statues of Victory right and left, the altar ornamented with row of uncertain objects along the top and three wreaths on the front panel.
    Sestertius, Lugdunum AD 10-11 (under Augustus)
    36,43 mm / 22,06 gr
    RIC (Augustus) 240; BMCRE (Augustus) 572-3; CBN (Augustus) 1737; Cayon (Los Sestercios del Imperio Romano) 4; Cohen 28; Sear (Roman Coins & Their Values I) 1753
     
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  11. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Florian

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    Coin: Bronze Ant
    IMP C M AN FLORIANVS AVG - Radiate, draped & cuirassed bust right
    VIRTVS AVGVSTI - Mars advancing right holding shield & spear treading down captive, IIII in ex.
    Mint: Lyons (276 AD)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 3.37g / 21mm / -
    Acquisition/Sale: $0.00
    Notes: Aug 22, 14 - RIC 16 Cohen 107
     
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  12. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Valerian II
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    Valerian II (Caesar)
    Coin: AR Antoninianus
    VALERIANVS CAES - Radiate and draped bust right.
    IOVI CRESCENTI - the child Jupiter sitting right on the goat Amalthea, looking left, right hand raised, left hand holding the goat's horn.
    Mint: Cologne (256-258 AD)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 4.17g / 22.17mm / -
    References:
    • RIC 3 (Lyons)
    • Cohen 26 (Saloninus)
    • Elmer 67a;
    • Goebl 0907e
    • Sear 10731.
    Provenances:
    • ex-Stevex6
     
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  13. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Saloninus
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    Saloninus (Caesar)
    Coin: Silver Ant
    SAL VALERIANVS CAES - Radiate draped bust right
    PRINC IVVENT - Prince standing left holding baton and standard, one standard to right
    Mint: Lyons (258-260 AD)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 3.80g / 24mm / -
    References:
    • RIC V1 10
    • Cohen 61
    • Sear5 10770

    Saloninus (Caesar)
    Coin: Silver Ant
    SAL VALERIANVS CAES - Radiate draped bust right
    PRINC IVVENT - Prince standing left holding baton and standard, one standard to right
    Mint: Lyons (258-260 AD)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 3.80g / 24mm / -
    References:
    • RIC V1 10
    • Cohen 61
    • Sear5 10770
     
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  14. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Many of these coins that were attributed to Lugdunum by RIC have since been re-attributed to other mints.

    Here are a couple of my Florians.

    Obv:– IMP C M AN FLORIANVS P F AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– PACATOR ORBIS, Sol running left, holding up right hand, whip in left
    Minted in Lugdunum (//III) Emission 3 Officina 3. August A.D. 276
    Reference:– RIC 7 Bust type F. Cohen 46. Bastien 137

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    This one similar to the one posted by @Pishpash

    Obv:– IMP C M AN FLORIANVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– VIRTVS AVGVSTI, Mars advancing right, holding a shield and spear, treading down captive.
    Minted in Lugdunum (IIII in exe.) Emission 3 Officina 4, between September to October 276 A.D.
    References:– Cohen 107. Bastien 150 (31 examples). RIC 16 Bust type C

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  15. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Here's a coin of Constantine I, depicting Sol on reverse. RIC VII- Lyons-53.

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  16. Severus Alexander

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    A few that haven't made an appearance yet...

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    Nero sestertius


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    Probus FIDES MILITVM


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    Constantine as Caesar, issued 307


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    Maximian 2nd reign (307-8)


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  17. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    And yet another Probus, who looks more like Florian and his head is quite square.

    Antoninianus, Gallia, Lugdunum, struck mid-late 277 AD, 2nd Officina, 4th emission

    22 x 23 mm, 4.16 g
    Ref.: RIC V Probus 38 (C) Bust type F; Bastien 191

    Ob.: IMP C PROBVS P F AVG, Bust of Probus, radiate, cuirassed, right
    Rev.: MARS VICTOR, Mars, helmeted, in military attire, walking right, holding spear in right hand and trophy in left hand; Mintmark: -/-//II

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  18. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    Denarius of Augustus Lugdunum 2 B.C.-12 A.D. Rv Caius and Lucius standing with shields. RIC 208 3.81 grms 19 mm augustusd46.jpg
     
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  19. Parthicus Maximus

    Parthicus Maximus Well-Known Member

    Interesting and well written. I was recently in Lyon but unfortunately did not have time to view the theater. I have two coins from the Lyon mint.

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    AE Dupondius
    Struck in Lugdunum 64-68
    10,04g/ 30mm
    Ric 404 (R2)

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    Constantine the Great 306-337
    AE Follis
    Struck in Lugdunum 322
    3,26g/ 20mm
    Ric 129 (R4)
     
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  20. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    There has been a distinct lack of Lugdunum ladies thus far. Here are a few..... whilst I have a few some of them are quite scarce and it has taken many years to obtain.

    Severina

    Obv:– SEVERINA AVG, Diademed and draped bust right on crescent
    Rev:– CONCOR-D MILIT, Concordia seated left holding patera and cornucopia
    Minted in Lugdunum (BL). Emission 1. End A.D. 274 to early A.D. 275
    Reference:– Bastien 2 (12). Cohen 5. RIC 1

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    Minted in Lugdunum (·B·L·). Emission 3. mid A.D. 275 (Bastien)
    Reference(s) – Bastien 8 (12). Cohen 5. RIC 1 (var not listed with 3 dots in RIC)

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    Minted in Lugdunum (.D.L.). Emission 3. Mid A.D. 275
    Reference:– Bastien 10 (9 examples cited). Cohen 5. RIC 1
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    Magnia Urbica
    A relatively common one.

    Obv:– MAGNIA VRBICA AVG, Draped bust right on crescent, hair brushed in straight lines, plait carried up the back to top of head and running under stephane
    Rev:– VENVS GENETRIX, Venus standing facing, head left, apple upward in right hand, vertical scepter in left
    Minted in Lugdunum (D in left field).
    RIC V pt. 2, 337. Bastien 617

    Some areas flatly struck but still a quite pleasing example

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    A scarcer one from a different officinal.

    Obv:– MAGNIA VRBICA AVG, Draped bust right on crescent, hair brushed in straight lines, plait carried up the back to top of head and running under stephane
    Rev:– VENVS GENETRIX, Venus standing facing, head left, apple upward in right hand, vertical scepter in left
    Minted in Lugdunum (A in left field).
    RIC V pt. 2, 337 var (not listed from this officina). Bastien -, Bastien Supplement -, Bastien Supplement II 613α (2 examples cited)
    23mm, 3.16g

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    Helena

    Obv:– FL HELENA AVGVSTA, Diademed, draped bust right
    Rev:– SECVRITAS REIPVBLICE, Securitas, standing left, holding branch
    Minted in Lugdunum (//PLC). A.D. 324-325
    Reference(s) – Bastien 192 (13 examples cited). RIC 234 (R2)

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    Fausta
    Obv:– FLAV MAX FAVSTA AVG, Draped bust right
    Rev:– SPES REIPVBLICAE, Spes standing left with two children in her arms
    Minted in Lugdunum (//PLC), end A.D. 324 – A.D. 325
    Reference:– Bastien 193 (20 examples cited). RIC VII Lugdunum 235 (R2).

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  21. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    florian2.JPG Silvered Aurelianus of Florian 276 A.D. Rv.Felicitas standing right RIC 11 4.03 grms 22 mm
     
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