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  1. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Supporter! Supporter

    The answer is.... $52.89 (i.e. $50 + 2.89 s/h).

    The winner is @ddddd with his guess of $50

    @jtlee321 in their defence, I think this predated CAC... but yes, have to love a gold bean no matter WHO applies it.

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    Much more interesting is the information provided by @Paddy54 who confirmed the variety attribution.

    In Flynn&Zack this is 1858 PR Repunched Date RPD-002, described as "Repunched Date 1858/158 Repunched 1 south seen below the serif. Repunched first [SIC] 8 south seen below the top. Repunched 5 south seen below the top."

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    Now here is where it gets even more crazy - note the PR? That means it's usually seen in PROOF coins. Either the proof dies were used later on for business strikes (a frequent occurrence in 3CS) or this is actually an impaired proof.

    I don't know which I more want it to be, one of 1,603,700 business strikes from a proof die or one of ~80 surviving proofs out of the 210 (300?) proofs that circulated...

    I lean towards business because I can't see the mint NOT using two perfectly good die pairs for business strikes after they were done striking a few hundred proofs. The reference book doesn't list the # of dies used. But does for the slightly smaller mintages of 1856 and 1857 (25/25 and 18/11 [obv/rev] respectively).
     
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  3. ddddd

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    Point totals:
    ddddd - 6.5 Points
    baseball21 - 6 Points
    Beefer518 - 3 Points
    Mainebill - 3 Points
    jtlee321 - 3 Points
    Burton Strauss III - 3 Points
    Pickin and Grinin - 2 Points
    heavycam.monstervam - 2 Points
    jwitten - 1 Point
    Bman33 - 1 Point
    jpcienkus - 1 Point
    BlackBeard_Thatch - 1 Point
    KSorbo - 1 Point
    Paddy54 - 1 Point
     
  4. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Next up we have an NCI photo certified Morgan in an aftermarket holder (Capital Holder?)....guide for MS 65 is $100-$125...what did I sell this for?

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  5. Mainebill

    Mainebill Wild Bill

  6. KSorbo

    KSorbo Well-Known Member

  7. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member Supporter

  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Variety Collector

  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Variety Collector

    Here's another 3 cent silver where the proof dies were used to produce ms coins.
    Wonder if I can find its mate lol @C-B-D
     
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  10. Burton Strauss III

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    I'm prrtty sure it is Capital Plastics - the little clear screws are whar they use even today.

    World upside down time:

    When slabbing started, NCI started offering an optional slab. The insert on the slab label states "not valid without certificate" - that's right they were saying that the grade on the plastic coffin was only valid with the attached piece of paper...


    Yeah

    What happened is most people lost or threw out the certificate and it's fairly uncommon today to find an NCI slab let alone a slab with its certificate.


    Most dealers just want to get rid of the slabs, but the showy presentation pieces like this one command a few $...

    Paddy54 took my 1st guess of 135, so let's say 160.
     
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  11. Burton Strauss III

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    Sure... $58550 for the pair ($50 in VG8 and 58,500 in PF68)
     
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  12. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

  14. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Variety Collector

    well you do know that I found the mate to the what "1861" that C-B-D had correct?
    Same die was used on his as the mate I found in proof... it was like watching the Patty Duke Show all over again...only this time in Living color :)....but their cousins...:singing: identical cousins....
     
  15. Burton Strauss III

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    Yes @Paddy54 I know.

    The populations of '61 proofs are 1000 w/ 500 estimated to survive, vs. 210/80 for the '58s so a little better. Think of it as a bigger challenge for your awesome skills...
     
  16. ddddd

    ddddd Member

  17. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

  18. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Full-fledged Vam-pire

    250
    Ive had a few of these but this looks like one of the nicer ones..
     
  19. BlackBeard_Thatch

    BlackBeard_Thatch Captain of the Queen Anne's Revenge

  20. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    @Paddy54 was closest to the $125 price....surprisingly this one sat on eBay for a bit before being discounted to 125 and finally selling...hopefully the buyer enjoys it as the coin was as cool as the holder!

    Point totals:
    ddddd - 6.5 Points
    baseball21 - 6 Points
    Beefer518 - 3 Points
    Mainebill - 3 Points
    jtlee321 - 3 Points
    Burton Strauss III - 3 Points
    Pickin and Grinin - 2 Points
    heavycam.monstervam - 2 Points
    Paddy54 - 2 Points
    jwitten - 1 Point
    Bman33 - 1 Point
    jpcienkus - 1 Point
    BlackBeard_Thatch - 1 Point
    KSorbo - 1 Point
     
  21. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Variety Collector

    I will put something up later today.
     
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