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<p>[QUOTE="Cloudsweeper99, post: 1491081, member: 3011"]I suppose that if all socialistic policies on work and welfare disappeared, the "poor" would have to work for whatever wage they could get. Nobody in NJ can raise a family on minimum wage, so forget about 1/2 or 1/4 minimum wage. Of course, housing would be abandoned as even modest apartments would be unaffordable, and third world type slums built from construction debris would suffice. And people could supplement their wages and hunger with crime.</p><p><br /></p><p>When David Ricardo postulated his theory of comparative advantage, the standard of living among the countries he discussed was comparable, and this made free trade feasible. Now we are in a situation where China and its neighbors have a low enough labor cost that they possess an absolute cost advantage in everything if you assume no government interference in the transfer of capital or technology. And as they move their population into the workforce, they will be able to produce nearly every manufactured good consumed in the world at a lower cost than everyone else. If free market capitalism persists, it’s game over for the middle class people in the West and all standards of living will have to fall [or “harmonize” as the globalists like to say] to the level of China. So oddly enough, capitalism might redistribute the wealth faster than socialism ever could. </p><p><br /></p><p>It’s ironic that those job killing regulations might be the only thing saving the jobs. And I'm not so sure life was better when there was no minimum wage, no limit to work hours, no child labor laws, and no job killing safety regulations. I think you underestimate the downside of unfettered capitalism. Henry Ford is said to have raised the wages of his employees so they could purchase the cars they made. I'm afraid there are no Henry Fords anymore, and morality is a quaint ideal of a bygone era. Today's elite are out to secure the wealth of the world. I think Atlantic magazine did an article a couple of years ago on the attitudes of the wealthy toward the rest of society by interviewing many of them. The results were disturbing.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Cloudsweeper99, post: 1491081, member: 3011"]I suppose that if all socialistic policies on work and welfare disappeared, the "poor" would have to work for whatever wage they could get. Nobody in NJ can raise a family on minimum wage, so forget about 1/2 or 1/4 minimum wage. Of course, housing would be abandoned as even modest apartments would be unaffordable, and third world type slums built from construction debris would suffice. And people could supplement their wages and hunger with crime. When David Ricardo postulated his theory of comparative advantage, the standard of living among the countries he discussed was comparable, and this made free trade feasible. Now we are in a situation where China and its neighbors have a low enough labor cost that they possess an absolute cost advantage in everything if you assume no government interference in the transfer of capital or technology. And as they move their population into the workforce, they will be able to produce nearly every manufactured good consumed in the world at a lower cost than everyone else. If free market capitalism persists, it’s game over for the middle class people in the West and all standards of living will have to fall [or “harmonize” as the globalists like to say] to the level of China. So oddly enough, capitalism might redistribute the wealth faster than socialism ever could. It’s ironic that those job killing regulations might be the only thing saving the jobs. And I'm not so sure life was better when there was no minimum wage, no limit to work hours, no child labor laws, and no job killing safety regulations. I think you underestimate the downside of unfettered capitalism. Henry Ford is said to have raised the wages of his employees so they could purchase the cars they made. I'm afraid there are no Henry Fords anymore, and morality is a quaint ideal of a bygone era. Today's elite are out to secure the wealth of the world. I think Atlantic magazine did an article a couple of years ago on the attitudes of the wealthy toward the rest of society by interviewing many of them. The results were disturbing.[/QUOTE]
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