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Message:: [QUOTE="Blaubart, post: 1476924, member: 37498"]I think much would depend on the nature of the collapse.  Is it local or global?  Did the economy collapse, or did the government collapse?  Are the local governments still effective?  Is there at least a semblance of order?  Are people confident that order will be restored?  I think it also depends on where you live - Urban vs rural.  Coastal vs inland.  North vs South.  No, not that North vs South, but can you grow food year round?  Can you survive the winter without electricity or fuel? Predicting the future is not quite as simple as many people like to think it is.  It's not simply order or apocalypse with nothing in between. In a place like NYC, I can see PMs not being worth very much.  There are too many people and not enough resources.  Food, water, gas, guns and ammo will likely command a premium.  In Astoria, OR, it would probably be the other way around.  They have a good climate for growing food year round, they have the ocean, they have fresh water, etc.  People wouldn't be as concerned about their immediate survival as those in NYC.  Here in MT, there are even less people, but our winters are cold and long.  There's more than enough guns, ammo and water to go around, but I imagine fuel and food would command a premium during the winter months.[/QUOTE]