Syracuse Apollo, Pegasus... Timoleon or Agathokles?

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  1. danielus

    danielus Member

    Hello everyone:

    Normally visitor his post, marveling and learning with them, fantastic!!, really thank you...

    I got this little coin,
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    Syracuse Bronze (AE 18), Apollo, Pegasus... Timoleon or Agathokles?

    349....289 BC I'not sure...

    Weight: I have no balance yet... Sorry...

    ... with hole and all ... and then try to identify
    it, I came to a post of John Anthony, that encourages me to post it here.

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/first-coin-of-2015-sicily.257496/

    I have one question, I do not know if it will be possible to solve due to the state of my money,

    but you have more knowledge.

    Is Timoleon, or Agathokles?. Hiron II not because their designs are Persephone not Apollo.

    I read that this design is common to Timoleon and the time of the 3rd Democracy, and that of the Agathokles found the "pileus" behind the bust of Apollo.

    The problem is that where it should be the pileus, there is a hole ... :dead:...I think the edge of this is, but I'm not sure.

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    Can you infer anything about this?

    From already thank you very much, should clear my doubts and magnificent posts ... and sorry for my poor use of language.

    Greetings from Argentina to all.
     
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  3. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I believe you are right about the hole not quite succeeding at eliminating the Pileus.
     
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  4. danielus

    danielus Member

    Thank you for answering Mr. dougsmit.

    Then, I leave as Agathocles.

    Cordiales saludos. :)
     
  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Nice, that's a very cool little coin, danielus ... I love coins from Sicily (one of my favourite coin collecting areas)

    :rolleyes:

    Ummm, I don't have a similar example, but I don't feel the need to post a couple of close-enough examples ... wanna see 'em?

    Your Cool Coin
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    My similar-enough examples
    bull & dolphin.jpg Sicily Syracuse Hiketas II.jpg


    Hey again, daniel => I love your OP-example ... I wish I had an exact example to post (good luck, hunting)

    Sicilian coins rock!!

    Cheers

    emoticon cheers too.gif

    :rolleyes:
     
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  6. danielus

    danielus Member

    Guaaauuu !!! That beautiful designs!!!

    Hiketas II, The Biga... In the last century,
    those of Vittorio Emanuelle III I guess would be inspired
    in some of these designs ... ¿¿??
    Beauty and labor used in them are incredible.
    Thanks for sharing such beautiful examples.

    True, Sicilian Coins Rocks!!!

    Gracias stevex6 :)
     
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  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I have one Sicily Pegasus... But, it is under the Carthage Occupation...

    Carthage Siculo AE 15 Palm Tree Pegasus O-R.jpg
    Carthage Siculo AE 15 Palm Tree Pegasus O-R.jpg

    And a couple other Pegasus examples...

    Bruttium Lokroi Eizephyrioi 300-268 BC AE 23 Athena Pegasus O-R.jpg
    Bruttium Lokroi Eizephyrioi 300-268 BC AE 23 Athena Pegasus O-R.jpg

    RR Q Titius AR Quinarius 90 BCE PEGASOS Obv-Rev Sear240.jpg
    RR Q Titius AR Quinarius 90 BCE PEGASOS Obv-Rev Sear240.jpg
     
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  8. danielus

    danielus Member

    Thank you for answering Alegrandron and the "extra gift"...
    So I leave you identify this way:

    Sicily, Syracuse, Agathokles, 317-289 BC - AE 18 Bronze
    Head Apollo at left with pileus behind - Pegasus at left
    corresponding to D.Sear 1199 (Greek Coins Vol 1)

    You sharing really fine coins :)

    Un gusto!!
     
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