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So, if we summarize what have been said by admin, mods and members in previous page here...

If there is someone making money from this website, it is only Peter, who is "self employed". It is ok, this is his business, his work, of course, he has to make some money for his living costs. Beside him who is making money directly, there may also be some dealers making some money semi-directly by advertising etc here and there may also be some people making some money indirectly by coin hunting&selling and investing by collecting coins. After all, everybody is helping each others, this way or that way, in this money making process which is final target of all in this hobby field too. If there is anyone who is only after "pure learning", without aiming at making any money at all, I guess they are only very few. As far as I've seen, big majority of people here too (like anywhere) are here to make some money and they are learning the coins for this reason, to make some money. Yes, people are helping each other in that. But, I can not call it "priceless help". Actually, people are not helping each others and themselves, either. To clarify what I meant by "priceless help", I have one simple question, to all members:

Do you have at least one One Cent coin in your pocket? (simple Yes or No)

I asked first, I'll answer first.

Yes.

 

Doug already explained here that Coin Talk is not about "making money". On the contrary.

This is not the "support forums department" of some company website - Coin Talk is a hobby site about a fascinating hobby, and for most members, participating here is part of that hobby. If you do not collect coins, that is perfectly fine of course, but most others here do (or are at least interested in coins), and simply like to share their knowledge with others. What kind of "payment" do we expect? Maybe a Thank You, or that somebody who got some help here now helps others. Yes, I do need to make money too but I certainly do not make it here.

Having said that, of course we also have members who are dealers, or who occasionally sell coins because they need money for something else. And people who primarily post in the Bullion Investing forum have an approach or concept that may be quite different from mine - so what? Assuming or suggesting that pretty much every member has ulterior (commercial) motives for being helpful is ... strange if you ask me.

Christian

 

The poor boy's a nut........

 

The type of person that he speaks, one who only seeks "pure learning" only exists in his ideals and dreams.

People enter this hobby for myriad reasons. Some have a profit motive, some are enthralled by the history, some just like shiny objects. Whatever your motive, once in the midst of this hobby, one may encounter or even become a philanthropist of sorts. One who is eager to share knowledge and ideas, one who wants to grow the hobby and share it with younger people to ensure the hobby's own survival.

He just doesn't know much about coin collecting, or coin collectors yet. Give him a chance, he's young. He'll learn

 

I don't collect for money nor for the want to make money. I only collect for fun and do it soley as a hobby. Sure I like to learn something new in the ancient coin world but that is about it.

 

And that's why we love and applaud folks like you NLL.

But sometimes it's ok to make a little money to fund the ol' hobby.

 

You Erol the NUT, this is NOT a simple question.

 

I see your point. Alot of people who sell coins for profit do it so they can buy another coin they like.

 

Indeed.

 

Not a simple question, but a simple statement. Stay ensconced in Turkey, from whence you've came........

 

You read my mind. The statement needed to be said.

 

How are horses at horse carts in Central Park of New York where you are encsconced?

Anyway, it is clear, your answer to this question

"... Do you have at least one One Cent coin in your pocket? (simple Yes or No) ..." is

NO.

One Cent is ideal, dream. It is NOT included in "myriad reasons".
(translation: people including collectors having any some amount of money in their pockets, BUT having no one cent in their pockets, TELLS what?)

 

Doug,

I'll give you a ducat to get you started again.

Cal

 

I am enjoying reading about coins and learning to grade them more than actually owning them. I have a modest collection. I still consider myself a collector as there are a few coins I would like to purchase eventually but what is keeping me satisfied right now is learning.

 

Gold ducat?

 

What @Bman33 is doing is Learning, also by collecting ...
What @GDJMSP is doing is Learning and writing books (teaching) not by collecting (anymore)...

In one of them, in @Bman33's case, there is a kind of trade of coins, that is what is being done by antique shops and dealers.
In the other, in @GDJMSP's case, there is a kind of trade of knowledge/info about coins, that is what is being done by museums and scholars.

I don't see any "pure learning" in either case.
In either case, this way or that way, with different methods, the target is to make some more money, isn't it?

Then, one may ask, what is "pure learning"?

I can think of only one answer and it is that the "pure learning" is "learning what the money is"... What people here are doing is learning what the coins are... This is far away from pure learning, however, also very close to pure learning... It depends on how you view the coin. If you view the coin as the money, you are close to pure learning. If you view the coin as a goods, as a commodity with a value which can be convertible to the money, then, you are far away from pure learning. Therefore, "pure learning" is possible only when we study the coin as the money.

 

Well true, You do understand after all. The name of the forum is COINTALK not
moneytalk . That is usually an economy forum. The discussion of money is allowed in small quantities and against the rules when coupled with religion, politics, or world events in this forum. As far as what you see as "pure learning", I do disagree. And most would agree that your idea that such is only possible when studying 'money' is a politicians/economists dream.

I believe you lost a bet with another engineer and you have to see how many posts you can get on this ill-conceived theory as that seems to be your only concern. Show some of your coins and let us see yours.