Doug Smith’s great photo was quickly burned into my mind. Thanks @dougsmit One day I’m on eBay and see what is a similar coin in an NGC slab. I remembered that it was mentioned here that a cast fake had possibly slipped through and been graded by NGC because it had all of the characteristics. I thought it might be fun to have a black cabinet coin that was still in a slab so I made the move. Only a week earlier I had held a same strike cast fake of the Carisius at a local shop and it was highly polished looking almost washed out. Immediately noticeable as “off” to these newbie eyes. Once this one arrived though I noticed some nice toning and a little more detail. Well, I started second guessing myself. Was this real or just a really nice cast fake with some deceptive toning? I sent an email to David Sear showing these pics compared to Doug’s cast fake pic. Mr. Sear thought the cast could have come from the slabbed coin, but wouldn’t know without examination. Even then for a thorough exam it would really need to be cracked out, but he could take a look in the slab anyway. At this point I was really interested to have Mr. Sear offer his feedback so off it went. The coin arrived here yesterday. Although I’m not a huge fan of grading ancients for my personal collection, and assuming this is the source coin, I think I will leave this one slabbed. In prison, if you will, for crimes against numismatics. An unwilling participant however many years ago, but an accomplice nonetheless, now locked away to do no more harm.