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Message:: [QUOTE="imrich, post: 914062, member: 22331"]A Possible "Find" I believe your initial post in the thread was: "The coin could be a key rare date, but if someone over dipped it in cleaning solution then the coin would be considered harshly cleaned and not carry any numismatic value at all, rare key date regardless. I think people lose sight of what numismatic value means. Cleaned coins carry NO, NO, NO numismatic value, regardless of how unique or rare they are." in response to a post of a HYPOTHETICAL extremely remote possibility that a dealer might have tossed a coin of value into a junk bin 20 years prior. I believe that possibility is akin to one finding a PCGS G4 coin being upgraded  to MS63. The author explained how he had found "treasures"  searching through large sums of junk Silver that he had purchased, totally unrelated to dealer acquisition. Regardless, if one understands the literal meaning of the word "numismatic", they would know of the folly in making the quoted statement. As is the tripe regarding "cleaned" coins being valueless. The word "clean" has a literal meaning of: "free from foreign matter", as are the valuablecoins reclaimed from shipwrecks, "cleaned", certified by TPG, and sold at "premiums". I've spent too many years watching "dealers" wrest treasures from naive neophyte collectors by use of tainted  statements, to allow same go unchallenged in a venue for Numismatic knowledge exchange. In regard to the worth of the 1921-D W.L. previously posted, that is unknown, but in excess of "NO, NO, NO, numismatic value", and greater than bullion value, as auction listing fees far exceed that. I realize that these matters can't be objectively discussed in a void, so enough said. I REST MY CASE!!  [/QUOTE]

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