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<p>[QUOTE="Clawcoins, post: 3277482, member: 77814"]It's not a typo. If you go back in this thread you'll see I'll post selling prices and spot prices and sometimes buyback prices of ASEs from Provident/APMEX.</p><p><br /></p><p>You'll see inversion of prices of new/old ASEs from time to time. In this case they probably want to sell out of their 2018s as those were purchased at a certain price from the Mint. People like the new stuff 2019s so they want to flush out the 2018s. The Randoms were purchased from ASE owners and are priced accordingly from BuyBacks.</p><p><br /></p><p>The BackBack price varies over time. If spot changes then the selling price *AND* Buyback price changes. The spreads change too (from buyback, spot and selling prices)</p><p><br /></p><p>Each and every time I buy ASEs I check against the current year versus random year for the lowest price. It varies.</p><p><br /></p><p>Keep in mind 2018s from Provident varies from APMEX which varies from other retailers. Why is this? Typos? I think not.</p><p><br /></p><p>Watch prices. Not just of random year, and current year but also of past years.</p><p>You get provident email right? When they have a sale track what those sale prices are. Notice if they are selling Randoms at 1+ same price or if they break it down from 1-20, 21-50 etc prices. This can give you an idea of inventory (maybe) and their potential pricing strategy.</p><p><br /></p><p>My last purchase was 2018s becz they were cheaper than randoms. </p><p>In past purchases my Randoms also contained current year ASEs which were priced higher. I assume those current years were sell backs and thus considered Random Years as they have now exchanged hands from retail.</p><p><br /></p><p>AS for the Chinese buyback ... don't forget about Supply/Demand. Also Sometimes stores stock certain items for buyers who don't only buy one thing but will buy multiple things.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm sure there's a lot to their pricing that we simply do not know.</p><p>If you also go back in the thread I also tracked the times spot dropped like a rock, and ASE prices dropped too much (at times I bought) before they popped back up. Their pricing now seems to lag from those days so no more buying from some trending calculation gone wrong.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also buybacks do not have to be above spot price. If you were selling spot silver/gold to a dealer and spot price was stable non-moving. Why would they buy a generic round at spot when they may not be able to sell above spot ?</p><p><br /></p><p>If a certain coin/round has demand it may get a premium. If demand lags, it may not have any premium at all; and in this case negative. </p><p><br /></p><p>I recall inversion of 2017s and Randoms last year too. It happens more frequently than you probably notice. </p><p><br /></p><p>The other week 2019 PreSales were cheaper than 2018 & Randoms too.</p><p><br /></p><p>below current prices. I always SORT from Lowest to Highest.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]865698[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Clawcoins, post: 3277482, member: 77814"]It's not a typo. If you go back in this thread you'll see I'll post selling prices and spot prices and sometimes buyback prices of ASEs from Provident/APMEX. You'll see inversion of prices of new/old ASEs from time to time. In this case they probably want to sell out of their 2018s as those were purchased at a certain price from the Mint. People like the new stuff 2019s so they want to flush out the 2018s. The Randoms were purchased from ASE owners and are priced accordingly from BuyBacks. The BackBack price varies over time. If spot changes then the selling price *AND* Buyback price changes. The spreads change too (from buyback, spot and selling prices) Each and every time I buy ASEs I check against the current year versus random year for the lowest price. It varies. Keep in mind 2018s from Provident varies from APMEX which varies from other retailers. Why is this? Typos? I think not. Watch prices. Not just of random year, and current year but also of past years. You get provident email right? When they have a sale track what those sale prices are. Notice if they are selling Randoms at 1+ same price or if they break it down from 1-20, 21-50 etc prices. This can give you an idea of inventory (maybe) and their potential pricing strategy. My last purchase was 2018s becz they were cheaper than randoms. In past purchases my Randoms also contained current year ASEs which were priced higher. I assume those current years were sell backs and thus considered Random Years as they have now exchanged hands from retail. AS for the Chinese buyback ... don't forget about Supply/Demand. Also Sometimes stores stock certain items for buyers who don't only buy one thing but will buy multiple things. I'm sure there's a lot to their pricing that we simply do not know. If you also go back in the thread I also tracked the times spot dropped like a rock, and ASE prices dropped too much (at times I bought) before they popped back up. Their pricing now seems to lag from those days so no more buying from some trending calculation gone wrong. Also buybacks do not have to be above spot price. If you were selling spot silver/gold to a dealer and spot price was stable non-moving. Why would they buy a generic round at spot when they may not be able to sell above spot ? If a certain coin/round has demand it may get a premium. If demand lags, it may not have any premium at all; and in this case negative. I recall inversion of 2017s and Randoms last year too. It happens more frequently than you probably notice. The other week 2019 PreSales were cheaper than 2018 & Randoms too. below current prices. I always SORT from Lowest to Highest. [ATTACH=full]865698[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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