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<p>[QUOTE="Clawcoins, post: 3270923, member: 77814"]A store of wealth is a gamble of "future risk management" for something that has a stable future value. Whether that is Gold, Silver, bullets, water, money, or some other commodity. Or even toilet paper.</p><p><br /></p><p>Gold/Silver is considered a storage of wealth as it's been some form of money for generations.</p><p><br /></p><p>Of course storing cash also is wealth preservations. I think I pay less for a loaf of bread today than I did 10 years ago. Orange juice and spaghetti sauce is cheaper than 15 years ago too from what I recall. I started making my own spaghetti sauce when a jar of Ragu broke $4.00 (now at $1.69). Of course some commodities have a short life and are not good at storing wealth.</p><p><br /></p><p>Cash (as long as it's stored safely) and PM have very long shelf lives; you can even bury them and hope the cash container doesn't spring a leak.</p><p><br /></p><p>Money (Cash) Economics has 3 basic Functions:</p><p>(1) storage</p><p>(2) exchange</p><p>(3) unit of account</p><p><br /></p><p>(1) storage is basically hoarding. Money has storage power because of it's Purchasing Power. (2) It is the defacto medium to buy stuff, and to receive when you sell stuff. (3) is it also what commodities are rated at, defined in units of. i.e. a loaf of bread is $1.99.</p><p><br /></p><p>Of course money is impacted during times of high inflation as it's value decreases (2) buying power. If you are (1) hoarding it though, it's future value will be different. Inflation is a "now" pressure on money that affects (2) and (3).</p><p><br /></p><p>Precious Metals - Gold/Silver is also a (1) storage of cash although it has to go through (2/3) exchange in valuation to obtain it. So it is a step away from direct inflationary pressures that Money goes through. So it has different impact pressures than pure cash.</p><p><br /></p><p>Although to Spend it, in most places you have to (2/3) exchange it back to (1) cash.</p><p><br /></p><p>That is where it becomes a long term Risk Management of the Future Value of Money. Because some technicalities will raise the valuation of PMs.</p><p><br /></p><p>Although as we have seen there are times of extreme volatility which may not be related to the basic fundamentals of it's valuation. One has to take out those extremes in using it to manage it's future value. Although many will sell during those extreme situations.</p><p><br /></p><p>During 2011 I didn't sell all my Gold/Silver. I was asked why by a friend. I said .. what would I invest the (1) Cash into then? He looked perplexed back at me - he spent the money he cashed in. My PMs are a long term risk management for the FV of Cash. Truthfully, it looks pretty is my #1.</p><p><br /></p><p>But is PM a long term play against inflation?</p><p>For the investor types going back in history PM were the hedge against the beginning of inflation to get them through the inflationary periods. in the early 1900s there were not many options for investments. </p><p><br /></p><p>So Gold became the defacto security to hold against inflation if you bought it as inflation started ramping up, and sold it at it's max before inflation decreased. That is the ultimate hedge against inflation for PMs and how to use it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Nowadays, if you really think inflation is causing a problem you can get Treasury Inflation Protected Securities. aka TIPS.</p><p><a href="https://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/research/indepth/tips/res_tips.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/research/indepth/tips/res_tips.htm" rel="nofollow">https://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/research/indepth/tips/res_tips.htm</a></p><p><br /></p><p>"<b><font size="5">How TIPS Are Tied to Inflation</font></b></p><p>Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) are marketable securities whose principal is adjusted by changes in the Consumer Price Index. With inflation (a rise in the index), the principal increases. With a deflation (a drop in the index), the principal decreases."</p><p><br /></p><p>Compared to gold history ...</p><p><img src="https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2013/6/14/681349-13712163513475628-funwithwine.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>So is Gold really a hedge against inflation?</p><p>TIPS is a direct correlated indicator on inflation; moreso than Gold.</p><p><br /></p><p>Gold .. then becomes more of a Supply/Demand scenario affected more minutely by other impact items such as the US Dollar Index (not CPI), more of a derivative Savings platform (remember we are hit all the time about using PMs for 401ks etc in marketing) and other impact items.</p><p><br /></p><p>PMs are no longer a passive medium for a "storage of wealth" or "hedge against inflation" like they were 100 or 80 years ago where these theories were driven and sold.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Clawcoins, post: 3270923, member: 77814"]A store of wealth is a gamble of "future risk management" for something that has a stable future value. Whether that is Gold, Silver, bullets, water, money, or some other commodity. Or even toilet paper. Gold/Silver is considered a storage of wealth as it's been some form of money for generations. Of course storing cash also is wealth preservations. I think I pay less for a loaf of bread today than I did 10 years ago. Orange juice and spaghetti sauce is cheaper than 15 years ago too from what I recall. I started making my own spaghetti sauce when a jar of Ragu broke $4.00 (now at $1.69). Of course some commodities have a short life and are not good at storing wealth. Cash (as long as it's stored safely) and PM have very long shelf lives; you can even bury them and hope the cash container doesn't spring a leak. Money (Cash) Economics has 3 basic Functions: (1) storage (2) exchange (3) unit of account (1) storage is basically hoarding. Money has storage power because of it's Purchasing Power. (2) It is the defacto medium to buy stuff, and to receive when you sell stuff. (3) is it also what commodities are rated at, defined in units of. i.e. a loaf of bread is $1.99. Of course money is impacted during times of high inflation as it's value decreases (2) buying power. If you are (1) hoarding it though, it's future value will be different. Inflation is a "now" pressure on money that affects (2) and (3). Precious Metals - Gold/Silver is also a (1) storage of cash although it has to go through (2/3) exchange in valuation to obtain it. So it is a step away from direct inflationary pressures that Money goes through. So it has different impact pressures than pure cash. Although to Spend it, in most places you have to (2/3) exchange it back to (1) cash. That is where it becomes a long term Risk Management of the Future Value of Money. Because some technicalities will raise the valuation of PMs. Although as we have seen there are times of extreme volatility which may not be related to the basic fundamentals of it's valuation. One has to take out those extremes in using it to manage it's future value. Although many will sell during those extreme situations. During 2011 I didn't sell all my Gold/Silver. I was asked why by a friend. I said .. what would I invest the (1) Cash into then? He looked perplexed back at me - he spent the money he cashed in. My PMs are a long term risk management for the FV of Cash. Truthfully, it looks pretty is my #1. But is PM a long term play against inflation? For the investor types going back in history PM were the hedge against the beginning of inflation to get them through the inflationary periods. in the early 1900s there were not many options for investments. So Gold became the defacto security to hold against inflation if you bought it as inflation started ramping up, and sold it at it's max before inflation decreased. That is the ultimate hedge against inflation for PMs and how to use it. Nowadays, if you really think inflation is causing a problem you can get Treasury Inflation Protected Securities. aka TIPS. [url]https://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/research/indepth/tips/res_tips.htm[/url] "[B][SIZE=5]How TIPS Are Tied to Inflation[/SIZE][/B] Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) are marketable securities whose principal is adjusted by changes in the Consumer Price Index. With inflation (a rise in the index), the principal increases. With a deflation (a drop in the index), the principal decreases." Compared to gold history ... [IMG]https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2013/6/14/681349-13712163513475628-funwithwine.jpg[/IMG] So is Gold really a hedge against inflation? TIPS is a direct correlated indicator on inflation; moreso than Gold. Gold .. then becomes more of a Supply/Demand scenario affected more minutely by other impact items such as the US Dollar Index (not CPI), more of a derivative Savings platform (remember we are hit all the time about using PMs for 401ks etc in marketing) and other impact items. PMs are no longer a passive medium for a "storage of wealth" or "hedge against inflation" like they were 100 or 80 years ago where these theories were driven and sold.[/QUOTE]
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