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<p>[QUOTE="desertgem, post: 3201369, member: 15199"]Most likely J.P. Morgan will sell on Monday, they are too smart to sell or buy contracts in their own name account . They make their money by collecting fees on both simultaneously. They do have an in house margin on the buy/sell ratio for contracts. Since most investors can see each public trade within seconds of bought or sold trough their broker ( such as TD Ameritrade, Schwab, Interactive Brokers, E*Trade, etc. ) is made public. Some companies have used straw accounts when they thought the commodity was going strongly , but they went under on reversal, or got penalized by the federal watchdogs. I realized the news has said that regulations on such has been or will be reduced, but the major companies will still tread carefully as a couple can not withstand more scandals such as WF.</p><p><br /></p><p>So if there is strong demand for short contracts, the house will raise the premium to sell and reduce it to buy and if it intensifies, the premium will get larger to sell, but less to buy. So it is the stackers vs. flippers of bullion ( bullion sellers) who determine where the price goes and JPM is happy to make money in either direction.</p><p><br /></p><p>By the way, JPM and some other houses have invested billions in AI, and web bots to seek trends so they can adjust their margins quickly. Their intention is to not LOSE any money each day, and they are pretty good at it IMO. </p><p><br /></p><p>Options and contracts expire if not used by certain date when bought, so their value decreases. And if you buy on margin ( their money loaned to you) losses can be very expensive either way.</p><p><br /></p><p>No trying to change anyone's mind, just wanted people to realize that their gains and losses are not the doing of JPM or any Bank, but themselves. Same for eventual gains. Follow the money of the major bullion dealers/companies ( not you local dealer). Jim[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="desertgem, post: 3201369, member: 15199"]Most likely J.P. Morgan will sell on Monday, they are too smart to sell or buy contracts in their own name account . They make their money by collecting fees on both simultaneously. They do have an in house margin on the buy/sell ratio for contracts. Since most investors can see each public trade within seconds of bought or sold trough their broker ( such as TD Ameritrade, Schwab, Interactive Brokers, E*Trade, etc. ) is made public. Some companies have used straw accounts when they thought the commodity was going strongly , but they went under on reversal, or got penalized by the federal watchdogs. I realized the news has said that regulations on such has been or will be reduced, but the major companies will still tread carefully as a couple can not withstand more scandals such as WF. So if there is strong demand for short contracts, the house will raise the premium to sell and reduce it to buy and if it intensifies, the premium will get larger to sell, but less to buy. So it is the stackers vs. flippers of bullion ( bullion sellers) who determine where the price goes and JPM is happy to make money in either direction. By the way, JPM and some other houses have invested billions in AI, and web bots to seek trends so they can adjust their margins quickly. Their intention is to not LOSE any money each day, and they are pretty good at it IMO. Options and contracts expire if not used by certain date when bought, so their value decreases. And if you buy on margin ( their money loaned to you) losses can be very expensive either way. No trying to change anyone's mind, just wanted people to realize that their gains and losses are not the doing of JPM or any Bank, but themselves. Same for eventual gains. Follow the money of the major bullion dealers/companies ( not you local dealer). Jim[/QUOTE]
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