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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Clawcoins, post: 3180727, member: 77814&quot;]I&#039;m confused too because you seem more of a &quot;flipper&quot; to me than a stacker with a very fixed and low profit buy/sell process. Why buy/sell from/to the same location?&nbsp; They buy low (from you) and sell high (to you) thus making your profit cycle even harder to attain.&nbsp; You need to buy low and sell high (to other buyers) to maximize profit.&nbsp; But those profit cycles can be extremely long as the latest downwards trend shows.</p><p><br /></p><p>But it&#039;s all definitions at this point right?&nbsp; Hoarder vs stacker vs flipper vs investor vs buyer.&nbsp; And then it relies upon our money/investment strategy first and foremost.</p><p><br /></p><p>For instance, I relie upon cash first and foremost.&nbsp; Not PMs.&nbsp; To me PMs are totally worthless for &quot;cash&quot; in an emergency.&nbsp; For some ppl it apparently works.&nbsp; Cash is king in the power outages/local disasters that I&#039;ve been in, seen and read about.&nbsp; To me, (my viewpoint), not having cash is foolish at any level.&nbsp; Matter of fact I use cash for many person to person/business transactions .. I get some pretty good discounts that way and thus save money.</p><p><br /></p><p>Real Estate.&nbsp; Really if you relie upon property values to go up then I have to question what investment do you have in it?&nbsp; Do you owe about as much as it&#039;s worth in which case property values has a significant valuation impact.&nbsp; My goal for any real estate (house) is to have it paid off 100%.&nbsp; At which point any large fluctuation in property value has squat impact on what I do with it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Remember this about any debt (real estate, credit card, etc).&nbsp; You are paying someone else (interest paid) to manage you inability to pay the debt off.&nbsp; This is why many say you need to pay off your debts before investing in stuff like PMs.</p><p><br /></p><p>Stocks/Bonds. This really goes towards people&#039;s emotional aspect of any investment.&nbsp; If it goes down they hold on to it.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; I have a 7% rule .. if it hits 7% going down I sell.&nbsp; This preserves cash (there are some exceptions of course).&nbsp; Of course I&#039;ve known people to buy stocks at $60 and ride it down to the mid 20s before selling.&nbsp; It makes absolutely no sense to me (emotions rule).&nbsp; But then, I&#039;ve got stuck in similar scenarios although in shorter timeframes but far less loss.&nbsp; But, if your stocks/bond investments go kaput then one has to blame oneself for that.</p><p><br /></p><p>You could say the same about PMs. Who&#039;s bought in 2011 and has held them hoping they&#039;d recover?</p><p><br /></p><p>To me, I buy designs. So I have many PMs in coins.&nbsp; I also have ASEs.&nbsp; I really don&#039;t plan on selling them with the minor swings you mention.&nbsp; If it happens to pop over $20 then sure, I may sell; the higher the better.&nbsp; But I didn&#039;t sell in 2011; but then my strategy was different than now.&nbsp; Back then PM had a section in my portfolio which I&#039;ve changed my strategy now and PMs really don&#039;t fit but they&#039;re they are paid for and inventoried.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some (non business) people do make money on it [USER=77126]@Bman33[/USER] but they don&#039;t sell to the same places they buy.&nbsp; People will be all over the board on their strategy/reason for silver or gold or platinum (or palladium).</p><p><br /></p><p>If you add your time and effort as a dollar based valuation, then is it worth it at all to buy/sell in your scenario?&nbsp; Of course, I assume you aren&#039;t tracking and paying taxes on your PM capital gains either which would put you even further in the hole.</p><p><br /></p><p>What is the point of all of this?</p><p>Fun ?</p><p>Emotional Lift ?</p><p>Nice pretty things that make kewl sounds when you clang them together?</p><p>short/long profit?</p><p>portfolio? distribution?</p><p><br /></p><p>Each and every one will have their own reasons for PMs.&nbsp; It just depends if it&#039;s profitable (either monetarily, or emotionally) for you.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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