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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Clawcoins, post: 3116100, member: 77814&quot;]with this</p><p>[ATTACH=full]791859[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>and this</p><p>[ATTACH=full]791860[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>who knows as gold deteriorates when it technically should be rising.</p><p><br /></p><p>about 6 months ago gold and silver ETFs were a normal thing on these inflows/outflows.&nbsp; But no more.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]791861[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>there&#039;s been more readings about Gold not being the safe haven anymore.&nbsp; Of course there was a shift to Crypto, but I think that kinda blew up.</p><p><br /></p><p>The only true safe haven that I know of is cash.&nbsp; But most investor advisors do not like cash ... they can&#039;t charge the premiums and transaction fees on other goods with Treasuries, commercial bonds, basic commodities, etc.</p><p>But I think there has been an uptick in saving just cash.</p><p><br /></p><p>My high yield savings account is pulling in 1.75%</p><p>Not bad for no downward risk ... assuming you don&#039;t think the gov&#039;t is going to raid your savings account to pay down federal debt.</p><p><br /></p><p>1.75% may be better than PMs. After all the 1.75% is a guaranteed upwards investment whereas PMs are not guaranteed returned (especially after you add the storage fees, holding fees, etc on a monthly basis).</p><p><br /></p><p>1.75% on $100,000 for a large investor brings in (pretax) $1,776 in one year.&nbsp; With relatively no risk.&nbsp; And if the economy keeps going the way it is that interest rate may tick up too during one years time.&nbsp; Mine has been ticking up slowly but surely.</p><p><br /></p><p>Of course there are other ways to invest your money.&nbsp; Pay down higher interest debt, pay down/off your mortgage.&nbsp; Help me buy a Bentley.&nbsp; Stuff like that.&nbsp; hahaha</p><p><br /></p><p>When Silver was above $17 I wish I had a good method to liquidate what I didn&#039;t want.&nbsp; But the markets I checked into when I was buying it have shifted.&nbsp; Smaller premiums over melt, etc, or tradeback prices lower than previous at those marks.&nbsp;&nbsp; Kinda disappointing.&nbsp; I&#039;m lucky I don&#039;t have much &quot;investment type&quot; PMs. Thus demand for PMs may have been dropping, thus supporting the weaker PMs prices even with the various indicators making one think that PMs should be stronger than they are.&nbsp; Supply/Demand coming into play over other impact situations.</p><p><br /></p><p>But hey, that all could shift tomorrow.</p><p><br /></p><p>Fyi, That high yield savings account In </p><p>June 2018 1.75%</p><p>Jan 2018 1.35%</p><p>June 2017&nbsp; 0.95% (not much movement until recently)</p><p>Jan 2017 0.90%</p><p>June 2016 0.90%[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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