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Message:: [QUOTE="abuckmaster147, post: 2709735, member: 27527"]Yes I have. But I have also worked a few tech jobs where I got everything you talk about. So all that is not just Union. I am not against unions my wife got better healthcare through the union than anywhere else. All I am saying is that Here in the small town next to me the union wage drove the employers to close, And there is one in another town that has been fighting to keep them out for years. They get pretty much everything now that a union will offer except for they hire too many temps and part timers. I have good friends and family that are in unions and some are reps also. Just around here they have not been friendly with the business. We also had a big union store that came in and forced the local grocery out. The ones that had been there for 25 years lost out big time with the new wage. and others say they are getting better and cheaper health ins but there dues make up the difference so they did not win either. Most that had been there were getting two weeks paid vacation but now they have to start at bottom.   So I am in now way going against your lively hood just stating what has happened here.[/QUOTE]