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<p>[QUOTE="TommyP, post: 2643981, member: 80814"]I can agree with portions of this also. To your last point on education though. Educate yourself on what exactly? How to file bankruptcy and 'screw your neighbor' (so to speak)? The game changes just when you think you've 'educated' yourself adequately. Take the healthcare profession, for example. It used to be thought that this field was relatively safe to build a future in, and it still is to some fraction of a degree. However the game has change immensely in that once again, large corporate entities have entered and re-entered and are now looking to hire only 'green' candidates that will work for next to nothing. Meanwhile profits soar for the top tiers and the bottom tier just keeps getting hammered. I've lived it. My point on pm's being that when these corporate games evaporate, what will be left? All that will be left is debt and more debt while the top tiers run away with all of it. I know this sounds 'stackerish' of me but it's true. The population as a whole in this country are getting hammered, and the top tiers keep upping the ante. For the lower tiers, you now have to get on some type of government assistance while working full time for a large corporation (ie Walmart). There used to be a time (I've lived it) where the middle class and even the lower class could thrive to some degree. That ISN'T possible today without some large pool of debt to draw from. Meanwhile, pms not only don't go higher (while the cost of actual living goes up and up) but they even have fallen. This is sick and indicative of a society bound to fall. Again, I point to what has made it to the WH as an example. PMs HAVE to go up at some point. They're grossly undervalued weighed against the record breaking 'value' (cough) of the 'paper' market. Waste, fraud and dumping debt highlight our society. Pms are one of the only things that (over time) hold some value versus fictional numbers created on some book keeper's spread sheet. All that said though, you're correct to a point. The top tiers will fare well regardless of what happens or doesn't happen. I'm only advocating for those of us that aren't stacked to the gills with oodles of wealth and pms DO best promise the value of some kind can be held onto over time. These creative book keeping schemes don't bode well for the MAJORITY of these United States citizens, and that's really all I'm trying to highlight here, despite the seemingly never ending words posted here by me. Bottom line, the rich will do fine. Everyone else? Not so much. Grab pms now and hold them. You may not get instantly rich tomorrow but over time, there WILL be some value down the road. The Walmart next door? Gone.,along with those created portfolio 'enhancements' manufactured in the big shell game we call 'corporate business'. On a good note though, the sooner it all crashes and burns, the sooner something more tangible can be reconstructed in the aftermath of the craziness that my children and yours can safely invest in because hopefully, there WILL be something to invest in (other than creative bookkeeping tricks or gaining wealth from dumping your debt onto someone else). This system we have now is near valueless and bound to explode into a cloud on dirt and steam. Count on it (though not much else can be counted on for sure).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TommyP, post: 2643981, member: 80814"]I can agree with portions of this also. To your last point on education though. Educate yourself on what exactly? How to file bankruptcy and 'screw your neighbor' (so to speak)? The game changes just when you think you've 'educated' yourself adequately. Take the healthcare profession, for example. It used to be thought that this field was relatively safe to build a future in, and it still is to some fraction of a degree. However the game has change immensely in that once again, large corporate entities have entered and re-entered and are now looking to hire only 'green' candidates that will work for next to nothing. Meanwhile profits soar for the top tiers and the bottom tier just keeps getting hammered. I've lived it. My point on pm's being that when these corporate games evaporate, what will be left? All that will be left is debt and more debt while the top tiers run away with all of it. I know this sounds 'stackerish' of me but it's true. The population as a whole in this country are getting hammered, and the top tiers keep upping the ante. For the lower tiers, you now have to get on some type of government assistance while working full time for a large corporation (ie Walmart). There used to be a time (I've lived it) where the middle class and even the lower class could thrive to some degree. That ISN'T possible today without some large pool of debt to draw from. Meanwhile, pms not only don't go higher (while the cost of actual living goes up and up) but they even have fallen. This is sick and indicative of a society bound to fall. Again, I point to what has made it to the WH as an example. PMs HAVE to go up at some point. They're grossly undervalued weighed against the record breaking 'value' (cough) of the 'paper' market. Waste, fraud and dumping debt highlight our society. Pms are one of the only things that (over time) hold some value versus fictional numbers created on some book keeper's spread sheet. All that said though, you're correct to a point. The top tiers will fare well regardless of what happens or doesn't happen. I'm only advocating for those of us that aren't stacked to the gills with oodles of wealth and pms DO best promise the value of some kind can be held onto over time. These creative book keeping schemes don't bode well for the MAJORITY of these United States citizens, and that's really all I'm trying to highlight here, despite the seemingly never ending words posted here by me. Bottom line, the rich will do fine. Everyone else? Not so much. Grab pms now and hold them. You may not get instantly rich tomorrow but over time, there WILL be some value down the road. The Walmart next door? Gone.,along with those created portfolio 'enhancements' manufactured in the big shell game we call 'corporate business'. On a good note though, the sooner it all crashes and burns, the sooner something more tangible can be reconstructed in the aftermath of the craziness that my children and yours can safely invest in because hopefully, there WILL be something to invest in (other than creative bookkeeping tricks or gaining wealth from dumping your debt onto someone else). This system we have now is near valueless and bound to explode into a cloud on dirt and steam. Count on it (though not much else can be counted on for sure).[/QUOTE]
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