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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;fiatfiasco, post: 1904184, member: 67957&quot;]I could care less about Duane or Gray, let alone their sides of the story. I care (or, cared) about why the mint failed, why MILLIONS of dollars of silver disappeared, why hundreds of thousand of dollars were funneled just in the building alone from MM to Kira Gray--its insane, its criminal, its open and shut black and white Rob GRay by a horselength! Read about how he used multiple AMEX cards, one for him, one for David, a shared one with Kira, as a bottomless personal spending machine. Its insane. </p><p><br /></p><p>Look, I am a humble dude. If anyone can show me how Duane is responsible for TENS of thousands of ounces of silver disappearing AFTER he severed ties with Gray, I will publicly (on this forum, haha) admit my wrongness. No prob. But every business that aligned themselves with Gray got burned. Read about how he screwed his buddy Jack from TheSurvivalPodcast.com, a guy who defended him even in the fire, and now won&#039;t even discuss it, at all, period. Or how James Wesley Rawles owner of survivalblog.com (my other 50% of my time when I am not on CoinTalk) warned everyone from the beginning how he could no longer do business with, or encourage any of his millions of readers to do business with Gray because of his &quot;obvious and apparent character flaws&quot;.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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