Well let me start by saying I bought the first four medals as they were released. I liked the message and quite frankly I liked the designs. I got the Death and Debt and showed it to many people who asked questions. That alone was worth the purchase price ($50 or so) when silver was $35? I am not taking sides on the whole issue as I am just not informed enough to make a good call on this situation. So I decided to educate myself on what the issues were. I have been reading a lot. My first 4 coins were delivered on time and without issue except my D&D copper (limited mintage?) did not come with my order as it was supposed to when I ordered Freedom Girl the day it was released. I called and I called again and finally received my copper medal after about two weeks. This was when the situation of the Mulligan Mint and Chris Duane went south or right around that time-frame. I ordered no more from that point on. I had paid a premium for my rounds and I thought with the issues that that was probably over with no matter how good the designs. Well the other night, I saw something that I wanted on FeeBay. When I originally bought these I did not buy the proofs that were offered, as I could not justify the premiums. Well I had my D&D, Trivium, Slave Queen, and Freedom Girl, all in BU strikes. The quality was very good and I was happy with them. So on the Bay I saw an auction for (7) rounds with a bonus of a original Copper D&D round. I did some calculations and some checks on actual sold values. I wanted this lot because it had a Proof Freedom girl that I regretted not buying. It also had a Proof Slave Queen, and two proof special mintage ones for SBSS members only. Plus 2 BU versions of FG and SQ. In addition it had a AG-47 that looked proof but the COA in the pictures was not there for that one so I still will not know what I get until it arrives. All in all, 7 ounces plus the limited Copper. Seemed like a group I was willing to bid on. So I did and I actually won it. It comes to about $25 an ounce not counting the copper piece. I am actually happy and looking forward to getting them. I finally have my Proof Freedom Girl and some other nice pieces to boot. These are sort of a piece of history in a way. So this got me to looking at the situation with this series. It is my understanding that the Mulligan Mint is now out of business or in bankruptcy anyway and that the Silver Bullet Silver Shield brand was hijacked. So Chris Duane has started over with the Silver Bullet series and has lost the SBSS brand name. Who is at fault? I started to ask a question that if the Mulligan Mint was using the dies to create new rounds, how can I be sure the mintage numbers of what I have are final? I can not be sure but I think that the MM created new ones but that were different than the originals in some way. Finding good information on this is very hard indeed. It would seem that Chris is moving right along with his plans however altered due to the falling out which makes me want to believe what the man claims. He still has deals with the online sellers of bullion products while Rob Grey does not. So I tried to investigate both sides of the issue and came across these videos with each telling their side of the story. Chris Duane's side of the story: Rob Grey's (Mulligan Mint) side of the story: In watching these, I can not make the determination of who is telling the truth. There is not much unbiased information out there on who was in the wrong. They both made a crap load of money off it but now there is the rumor that Chris Duane is bankrupt after accepting all debts to get the orders filled. How can this be true if he has new medals being offered by respected dealers and even more in the pipeline? I can not say the same for Rob Grey and that side of the story. http://www.mulliganmintexposed.com/ So I will have some bullion coming that is very nice indeed no matter the outcome of this issue. I have to ask myself that if I paid ~$50 for the D&D and Trivium rounds are they still holding their value? D&D's are going for around $45 on the Bay and Triviums around the same price. The Copper D&D however has dropped big time. When I got mind they were going for $50 on the Bay and now for an original (2013) you can get one for $20. Mine was free so no loss there. The silver bullion rounds however have dropped as I was able to buy some for a good price. If I take what I got and look at the numbers and discount the BU and copper piece, I am getting proofs for around $30. I have no issue with this as they were much more in 2013. Yet silver has dropped and that has to be part of the equation. That being said, I have two proofs coming that the mintage's were 2012 pieces and 2013 pieces and these are going for $60 each. This leads me to believe that I did ok. I will get some medals that I wanted for a small premium over spot and they will add to my collection of the SBSS series that is for all intensive purposes defunct. What does this mean in the coming years? Well I see it like this, I have an Englehard prospector that I paid a nice $5 premium to get (1984). It still will sell for over spot by about $3-5 dollars in come cases. I have a Universaro from the 80's that I have no idea what it would sell for but I guess a minimal premium over spot. Where will the SBSS series be in 5 years? Will it be like the Franklin Mint and sell at spot? You see I like the Franklin mint products, they were very well done and a nice way to get silver at spot if you can. I would like to know what some of you think about this situation and if you have links that can lead me to more information on the SBSS situation, then by all means post it. I am curious and intrigued with the whole thing. My basic opinion is that even with a $15 drop in Silver, the ones I have have held their value for the most part. That was until I won this auction and realized that I can get them cheaper now. Is this mainly due to the drop in silver or the lack of confidence in a limited mintage bullion product? What say you?