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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;InfleXion, post: 1572741, member: 29012&quot;]And this will likely always be the case. I have become less of a Ted Butler fanboy lately, because I had the appiphany that just because they don&#039;t have a long in the same market that they have a short, they can hedge it in plenty of other markets, including the physical market. It&#039;s just that the physical market doesn&#039;t impact the price the same way because there are so many paper contracts not backed by physical, diluting the supply that drive the price movements. So Butler may have a point about price manipulation, but it can never be proven without full disclosure.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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