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Message:: [QUOTE="JHLSTUFF, post: 1550835, member: 41473"]I am buying also.  But keep in mind if buying, you are buying strictly for investment, because the only way to prove the ingot or bar is the "V" cut it or drill it.   I have had numerous conversations with some of the best: in the private sector and government sector and they all agree......the fakes will pass....weight, acid and magnetic test.  But, the insides are fake.  I agree, it is still a buyers market, however, once the market is flooded with the fakes, are people going to be willing to buy and sellers will lose  unless otherwise certified, like coins.  I am buying, just presenting a serious situation developing that anyone concerned should be interested in and pushing the right buttons to stop it.   And if you are asking me where these places are.....look at most auction sites, almost all of them.  Interesting Amazon, Ebay etc have doubled or tripled their listings in the last 12 months under billions.  I am looking at a 35 year old 1 oz of Sussie gold which I have owned for over 50 years  and a new one just bought from china.......thee each weigh 21 penny weight or 31.5 grams.  Each passed magnetic test.  Each passed acid test.  But when the on from China was cut in half, it failed acid test. The cost of the fake gold bar....$3.50.    Like I said Buyer Beware.  There are copying bars from 10 -20 years ago.[/QUOTE]