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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;imrich, post: 4016405, member: 22331&quot;]I Use large Remington and Browning &quot;gun safes&quot; with mechanical (no electronics) combination entry/bolt systems. Special stainless steel shelving has been designed/fabricated/installed which will allow adequate support for 50mm ammunition cans which I&#039;ve found optimum for coin storage with desiccant pouches in the cans.</p><p><br /></p><p>The shelves could be made of wood, if you understand how to develop the maximum cross sectional moment of inertia, maximum allowable bending moments exceeded for the appreciable loads (~90#/can).</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;ve helped others to install the heavy enclosures in structures which an opening normally can&#039;t be found, after assuring floor loads aren&#039;t exceeded. Basement installations on an exterior wall are normal. Premier installations were installing the &quot;four hardened bolt&quot; safes into reinforced concrete surrounds, so only the front face is shown if they can penetrate the labyrinthian enclosure.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anchors are nice, but if a thief has a hand held grinder with a 1/16&quot; thickness metal cutting disc, the safe can be accessed quickly, and the anchors can be removed.</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;ve a high-tech electronic security system which constantly causes problems that technicians can&#039;t solve, My best secure system is complete fencing, barbed wire, with patrol dogs. Police are ~1/2 hour away on a good day, if they so desire to respond. They state, NOT for conditions that don&#039;t involve human lives. Remember shootings where police stood outside while victims screamed. The ramifications of their firing a gun can be appreciable, including their demise.</p><p><br /></p><p>JMHEO[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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