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<p>[QUOTE="NPCoin, post: 935106, member: 5629"]And that is why I voted to put these forum into a *hidden* mode (ie. opt-in)</p><p><br /></p><p>This is exactly what I was referring to in my post. It will all come down to a group of people's philosophy on the matter that determines what line of political talk may occur.</p><p><br /></p><p>History does not drive the speculator, trends and current events do. And speculators are the makers of the markets that lead investors one way or another. The current actions of government leaders affects bullion investment greatly.</p><p><br /></p><p>What Bush did at the time, or Obama does now does in fact affect economic markets. You cannot just turn a blind eye to the fact because your own philosophies on the matter do not want to discuss our leaderships' abilities or inabilities and speculate on where that is leading a specific market...in this case, the bullion markets.</p><p><br /></p><p>The printing of "money", the changing of interest rates, bail-outs, government sponsored loans, success or failure of other markets, executive actions, military actions...all of this affects prices and investment...not just in the bullion market...but in all markets.</p><p><br /></p><p>And this is not historic information that affects these investments and speculations. It is the here and now current events that affect the markets. And these events are very highly politically motivated and driven.</p><p><br /></p><p>As I type this, the poll shows near 60% of those voting wanting the situation either to stand as it is, or for the forum to be *hidden*. Only 30% want a "crack down" of the situation, and 10% want it moved altogether.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, if this same poll was taken on another forum (World & Ancient Coins, for example) I believe we would both be able to agree that the poll results would be steeply skewed toward a crack down.</p><p><br /></p><p>My belief is that this would result because bullion *investing* is usually more highly speculative and driven primarily by political influences, and some people realize this. Coin investment is most certainly a more long term investment decision that is more driven by the peer market.</p><p><br /></p><p>How often are classic American coppers going to be affected in price by a government decision to allow new mines to open, or the decision of a central bank to print more paper money, or to lower or raise interest rates, or by an influx of spooked investors from other markets?</p><p><br /></p><p>Yet, these do affect bullion prices, supply, and demand. And, especially because a higher volume of cash is normally funneled through such endeavors, opinions for or against particular political influences rage in many involved with bullion speculation.</p><p><br /></p><p>Government issued monies are more hobby-centric, while bullion speculation is more investment-centric. The more investment-centric one becomes, in my opinion, the more opinionated and political the individual becomes.</p><p><br /></p><p>And I know there will be quite a bit that you will disagree with here (in fact, I would think something was wrong if you didn't), but this is a side of the issue that should be considered if the "future of the bullion section" is at stake here.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="NPCoin, post: 935106, member: 5629"]And that is why I voted to put these forum into a *hidden* mode (ie. opt-in) This is exactly what I was referring to in my post. It will all come down to a group of people's philosophy on the matter that determines what line of political talk may occur. History does not drive the speculator, trends and current events do. And speculators are the makers of the markets that lead investors one way or another. The current actions of government leaders affects bullion investment greatly. What Bush did at the time, or Obama does now does in fact affect economic markets. You cannot just turn a blind eye to the fact because your own philosophies on the matter do not want to discuss our leaderships' abilities or inabilities and speculate on where that is leading a specific market...in this case, the bullion markets. The printing of "money", the changing of interest rates, bail-outs, government sponsored loans, success or failure of other markets, executive actions, military actions...all of this affects prices and investment...not just in the bullion market...but in all markets. And this is not historic information that affects these investments and speculations. It is the here and now current events that affect the markets. And these events are very highly politically motivated and driven. As I type this, the poll shows near 60% of those voting wanting the situation either to stand as it is, or for the forum to be *hidden*. Only 30% want a "crack down" of the situation, and 10% want it moved altogether. Now, if this same poll was taken on another forum (World & Ancient Coins, for example) I believe we would both be able to agree that the poll results would be steeply skewed toward a crack down. My belief is that this would result because bullion *investing* is usually more highly speculative and driven primarily by political influences, and some people realize this. Coin investment is most certainly a more long term investment decision that is more driven by the peer market. How often are classic American coppers going to be affected in price by a government decision to allow new mines to open, or the decision of a central bank to print more paper money, or to lower or raise interest rates, or by an influx of spooked investors from other markets? Yet, these do affect bullion prices, supply, and demand. And, especially because a higher volume of cash is normally funneled through such endeavors, opinions for or against particular political influences rage in many involved with bullion speculation. Government issued monies are more hobby-centric, while bullion speculation is more investment-centric. The more investment-centric one becomes, in my opinion, the more opinionated and political the individual becomes. And I know there will be quite a bit that you will disagree with here (in fact, I would think something was wrong if you didn't), but this is a side of the issue that should be considered if the "future of the bullion section" is at stake here.[/QUOTE]
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