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<p>[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 679861, member: 57463"]<b>Money is a claim of honor.</b></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Don't be silly... I started reading Ayn Rand 45 years ago when I was 15. I went the route with British sovereigns and Swiss 20F and all that. I still like gold. But somewhere along the way, as a numismatist, I could not deny that gold and silver are just kinds of money, as pens and pencils are writing implements. The Austrians are incomplete on this point and in fact never shed socialist ideas about the social definition of money. Any standard textbook -- as well as Marx and von Mises both -- will tell you about commodity money and its evolution. Supposedly, money serves three purposes:</p><p><br /></p><p>Store of Value</p><p>Medium of Exchange</p><p>Unit of Account.</p><p><br /></p><p>Those are three independent things. They can be related. (Dogs are pets. Cars are conveyences. You can put your dog in your car ... even teach him to drive... Dogs are not cars.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Gold is a store of value. Period. You need some to balance your portfolio, to cushion against risks. Hard core gold bugs recommend having 10% of your net worth in gold.</p><p><br /></p><p>The Dollar is a unit of account. Multinational corporations headquartered almost anywhere often choose the Dollar for bookkeeping. We all do.</p><p><br /></p><p>Paper dollars (coins, etc.) are hardly a medium of exchange. Really for almost a century, physical money has been relatively unimportant for commerce. It is a daily convenience, to be sure, for small transactions, but most of trade and commerce is carried out electronically. Plan to travel to Europe from the USA? You might need some UKP or EUR in your pocket, but, really, your credit card is your medium of exchange. The transfers among currencies is handled electronically for a small aggio. No need for physical cash, or not much.</p><p><br /></p><p>A couple of years ago, I got curious about Stock Certificates, scripophily. Last year, I read a biography of John Stewart Kennedy, the banker to J. J. Hill and a dozen other railroads. Paper promises -- making them and more to the point, keeping them -- built this nation. Gold had little to do with it. Physical gold was a fraction of the wealth... and is even less so today.</p><p><br /></p><p>Nice stuff, gold. Love it. But "real" money?? You confuse yourself with mystical floating abstractions, the savage's limited epistemology in tangible, concrete objects. </p><p><br /></p><p>What is money? Define money. Then you will know what "real" money is.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 679861, member: 57463"][b]Money is a claim of honor.[/b] Don't be silly... I started reading Ayn Rand 45 years ago when I was 15. I went the route with British sovereigns and Swiss 20F and all that. I still like gold. But somewhere along the way, as a numismatist, I could not deny that gold and silver are just kinds of money, as pens and pencils are writing implements. The Austrians are incomplete on this point and in fact never shed socialist ideas about the social definition of money. Any standard textbook -- as well as Marx and von Mises both -- will tell you about commodity money and its evolution. Supposedly, money serves three purposes: Store of Value Medium of Exchange Unit of Account. Those are three independent things. They can be related. (Dogs are pets. Cars are conveyences. You can put your dog in your car ... even teach him to drive... Dogs are not cars.) Gold is a store of value. Period. You need some to balance your portfolio, to cushion against risks. Hard core gold bugs recommend having 10% of your net worth in gold. The Dollar is a unit of account. Multinational corporations headquartered almost anywhere often choose the Dollar for bookkeeping. We all do. Paper dollars (coins, etc.) are hardly a medium of exchange. Really for almost a century, physical money has been relatively unimportant for commerce. It is a daily convenience, to be sure, for small transactions, but most of trade and commerce is carried out electronically. Plan to travel to Europe from the USA? You might need some UKP or EUR in your pocket, but, really, your credit card is your medium of exchange. The transfers among currencies is handled electronically for a small aggio. No need for physical cash, or not much. A couple of years ago, I got curious about Stock Certificates, scripophily. Last year, I read a biography of John Stewart Kennedy, the banker to J. J. Hill and a dozen other railroads. Paper promises -- making them and more to the point, keeping them -- built this nation. Gold had little to do with it. Physical gold was a fraction of the wealth... and is even less so today. Nice stuff, gold. Love it. But "real" money?? You confuse yourself with mystical floating abstractions, the savage's limited epistemology in tangible, concrete objects. What is money? Define money. Then you will know what "real" money is.[/QUOTE]
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