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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3085025, member: 19463"]A sales method I have not seen for quite a while was once more common at shows. The seller would have a bag of similar coins, lets say denarii of the third century. They were offered at, lets say, $20 each you pick or five for $75 if you took what he pulled from the bag without looking. There was no guarantee or refund if you did not like the blind picks. Usually there was also a lower price each if you took all that were left in the bag. I usually took the high price option and selected coins that appealed to me. A beginner who had no coins of that description might do better taking the five. Today, would there be any demand for blindly picked ancients? Would you be interested in coins knowing that the bag had a lot of Gordians, a few Philips and two or three women from that era mostly in VF or better but no real dogs? </p><p><br /></p><p>eBay had a sales option 20 years ago called Dutch Auction. The seller would show a pile of coins, lets say 35. Bidders would say, 'I'll take 3 at $20' or 'I'll take one at $10'. After the sale, the bids would be examined and the most expensive would be pulled at random by the seller (you had to trust him). When it got down to coin 35 - last one in the group, the price to everyone was set by the bid on that last coin. People who bid less got nothing. If you bid on 35, your offer would set the price for the bunch so you would pay a lot more. On group of 35 had a coin I really wanted so I bid $30 on 34 of the coins hoping that the next bid would be low. It was $10 so I bought 34 for $340 and the other bidder bought one for $10. He might have bid on more or even all 35 but he only got one. I was betting with the odds that the coin I wanted would be in the 34 not in the one pile. That was a nerve racking day. Soon I got a note from the seller saying that the buyer of one really, really wanted the Elagabalus in the lot and would I mind if he sent it to him rather than doing a blind draw. The coin I wanted was a Domna so I agreed and got my coin and 33 others of which I immediately resold 27 for less than $10 each. Since then, I have sold a couple of the others but I gained a few acceptable (to me) denarii and the one I wanted. We no longer see sales like this. I would love to know if the buyer of the Elagabalus still collects and still wants that coin. Can you imagine sales like this working today? I can't. I know sellers that I would trust but I suspect the concept would strike enough people as a lottery that it would be called illegal gambling now. Most coins offered in this way were all the same in someone's mind - wheat cents, war nickels etc. The concept did not fit ancients as well but those were the early days of eBay and details of how things worked were still being worked out. </p><p><br /></p><p>How could we now sell ancients not worth individual attention? Is there another way?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3085025, member: 19463"]A sales method I have not seen for quite a while was once more common at shows. The seller would have a bag of similar coins, lets say denarii of the third century. They were offered at, lets say, $20 each you pick or five for $75 if you took what he pulled from the bag without looking. There was no guarantee or refund if you did not like the blind picks. Usually there was also a lower price each if you took all that were left in the bag. I usually took the high price option and selected coins that appealed to me. A beginner who had no coins of that description might do better taking the five. Today, would there be any demand for blindly picked ancients? Would you be interested in coins knowing that the bag had a lot of Gordians, a few Philips and two or three women from that era mostly in VF or better but no real dogs? eBay had a sales option 20 years ago called Dutch Auction. The seller would show a pile of coins, lets say 35. Bidders would say, 'I'll take 3 at $20' or 'I'll take one at $10'. After the sale, the bids would be examined and the most expensive would be pulled at random by the seller (you had to trust him). When it got down to coin 35 - last one in the group, the price to everyone was set by the bid on that last coin. People who bid less got nothing. If you bid on 35, your offer would set the price for the bunch so you would pay a lot more. On group of 35 had a coin I really wanted so I bid $30 on 34 of the coins hoping that the next bid would be low. It was $10 so I bought 34 for $340 and the other bidder bought one for $10. He might have bid on more or even all 35 but he only got one. I was betting with the odds that the coin I wanted would be in the 34 not in the one pile. That was a nerve racking day. Soon I got a note from the seller saying that the buyer of one really, really wanted the Elagabalus in the lot and would I mind if he sent it to him rather than doing a blind draw. The coin I wanted was a Domna so I agreed and got my coin and 33 others of which I immediately resold 27 for less than $10 each. Since then, I have sold a couple of the others but I gained a few acceptable (to me) denarii and the one I wanted. We no longer see sales like this. I would love to know if the buyer of the Elagabalus still collects and still wants that coin. Can you imagine sales like this working today? I can't. I know sellers that I would trust but I suspect the concept would strike enough people as a lottery that it would be called illegal gambling now. Most coins offered in this way were all the same in someone's mind - wheat cents, war nickels etc. The concept did not fit ancients as well but those were the early days of eBay and details of how things worked were still being worked out. How could we now sell ancients not worth individual attention? Is there another way?[/QUOTE]
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