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<p>[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 26538983, member: 73489"]I presume you are talking about the more common Saints, right ? They probably lagged on the upside price-wise and saw their premiums come in once the premium on MS-65's had shriveled to <15%.</p><p><br /></p><p>Check out premiums for 2 grades of Saints below (<b><i>see charts</i></b>).....I presume the trend would be linear if I had one for MS-66's. Meaning they are down from a few years ago, but still pretty decent premiums tacked-on to the current price of gold.If gold could be magically "frozen" at $4,000 for 5 years....I would then expect the premium to move up a bit for MS-64's and above. But the experience for virtually ALL dealers is that gold is either moving UP or DOWN -- it never flatlines for any serious period of time, esp. after a nice runup. The only time it is flat is when it is bombed out as it was after the 1980 Bubble and again in the late-1990's.</p><p><b><span style="color: #4d4dff"><br /></span></b></p><p><b><span style="color: #4d4dff">This is a unique time period for gold and gold coins. </span></b> We've had bigger, longer runs...but the total dollar increase (~$2,000) in only 2+ years is certainly unprecdented. For decades, dealers had to price coins and their inventory knowing that gold would be between $250 - $1,000, give-or-take. The post-2010 environment put us above that floor and to borrow a phrase from the stock market.....It's Different This Time. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>In the past, when gold was $300-$500 an ounce give-or-take for 20 years, you could price an MS-65 or other graded coin knowing that any rise in gold would be contained and you wouldn't have to have the gold price rise eat into the premium you paid without raising the total price too much. Hence why the premiums were biggest when gold demand and the gold price were at their lowest. Think of it as an insurance policy against a gold price rise which often did occur -- but said price rises were contained (until after 2010).</p><p><br /></p><p><b><i>I don't know...maybe if we ever approach or exceed $10,000 an ounce for gold we'll have a thread here about falling premiums for MCMVII High Reliefs !! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></i></b> It took a decade for gold and gold coinss to "find their level" after price controls on gold were lifted and Americans could legally possess gold coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1691396[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1691398[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 26538983, member: 73489"]I presume you are talking about the more common Saints, right ? They probably lagged on the upside price-wise and saw their premiums come in once the premium on MS-65's had shriveled to <15%. Check out premiums for 2 grades of Saints below ([B][I]see charts[/I][/B]).....I presume the trend would be linear if I had one for MS-66's. Meaning they are down from a few years ago, but still pretty decent premiums tacked-on to the current price of gold.If gold could be magically "frozen" at $4,000 for 5 years....I would then expect the premium to move up a bit for MS-64's and above. But the experience for virtually ALL dealers is that gold is either moving UP or DOWN -- it never flatlines for any serious period of time, esp. after a nice runup. The only time it is flat is when it is bombed out as it was after the 1980 Bubble and again in the late-1990's. [B][COLOR=#4d4dff] This is a unique time period for gold and gold coins. [/COLOR][/B] We've had bigger, longer runs...but the total dollar increase (~$2,000) in only 2+ years is certainly unprecdented. For decades, dealers had to price coins and their inventory knowing that gold would be between $250 - $1,000, give-or-take. The post-2010 environment put us above that floor and to borrow a phrase from the stock market.....It's Different This Time. :D In the past, when gold was $300-$500 an ounce give-or-take for 20 years, you could price an MS-65 or other graded coin knowing that any rise in gold would be contained and you wouldn't have to have the gold price rise eat into the premium you paid without raising the total price too much. Hence why the premiums were biggest when gold demand and the gold price were at their lowest. Think of it as an insurance policy against a gold price rise which often did occur -- but said price rises were contained (until after 2010). [B][I]I don't know...maybe if we ever approach or exceed $10,000 an ounce for gold we'll have a thread here about falling premiums for MCMVII High Reliefs !! :D[/I][/B] It took a decade for gold and gold coinss to "find their level" after price controls on gold were lifted and Americans could legally possess gold coins. [ATTACH=full]1691396[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1691398[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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