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<p>[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 26436561, member: 73489"]Yeah, so about a 50% premium paid, depending on when you bought in 2013 (as you said, gold was falling 15 months after the late-2011 peak).</p><p>Yeah, it happens...that's why you can never consider either numismatics or even bullion as "investments" even thought right now the returns over 5, 10,and 20 year periods look pretty good. Using rolling time periods (to eliminate timing bias and recent up-moves) gold and PMs are less impressive.</p><p>Mining stocks will DEFINITELY go down more to the downside if gold corrects downward....definitely they are more leveraged plays.</p><p><br /></p><p>The coins clearly were the victims of the premium being eroded. Ironically, if gold goes down, numismatics have downside protection as the coins shouldn't fall dollar-for-dollar with bullion.</p><p><br /></p><p>I agree with your "keep the winners, dump the losers" but not sure it applies to cyclical investments like PMs/gold where down cycles can last years or decades.</p><p>Yeah, GDJMSP has said this for a few years....he's made some great calls....<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />....said that world/foreign coins were the place to be a few years ago (still like 'em, GD ?).</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't know if it's because the coins are rarer or because they were undiscovered for so long and/or because there are much more (world) buyers than there are domstic U.S. buyers for U.S. gold and silver coins.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 26436561, member: 73489"]Yeah, so about a 50% premium paid, depending on when you bought in 2013 (as you said, gold was falling 15 months after the late-2011 peak). Yeah, it happens...that's why you can never consider either numismatics or even bullion as "investments" even thought right now the returns over 5, 10,and 20 year periods look pretty good. Using rolling time periods (to eliminate timing bias and recent up-moves) gold and PMs are less impressive. Mining stocks will DEFINITELY go down more to the downside if gold corrects downward....definitely they are more leveraged plays. The coins clearly were the victims of the premium being eroded. Ironically, if gold goes down, numismatics have downside protection as the coins shouldn't fall dollar-for-dollar with bullion. I agree with your "keep the winners, dump the losers" but not sure it applies to cyclical investments like PMs/gold where down cycles can last years or decades. Yeah, GDJMSP has said this for a few years....he's made some great calls....:D....said that world/foreign coins were the place to be a few years ago (still like 'em, GD ?). I don't know if it's because the coins are rarer or because they were undiscovered for so long and/or because there are much more (world) buyers than there are domstic U.S. buyers for U.S. gold and silver coins.[/QUOTE]
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