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<p>[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1575020, member: 41665"]<span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">medoraman-</font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">With all due respect (and I <i><font face="Verdana">do </font></i>have the greatest of respect for your opinion) and apart from whatever issue you might have w/ fatima, I too have a long-running argument against Paper Bugs who insist most Gold holders suffered enormous losses in the 1980s and 1990s. That simply was NOT TRUE. </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">Fact is, almost no one (nary a soul!) bought Gold bullion on the Gold High January 21, 1980. People were buying for <i><font face="Verdana">years </font></i>before that date (1976-9) also <i>after </i>the Investor Death Spike. Use those avg prices, instead.</font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">In 1979, a very high price, the avg POG was $USD 307./oz. Gold didn't sell off to that price until December 1984. So there were literally <i><font face="Verdana">thousands of exit points </font></i>(dates) to have sold safely and WITH PROFIT over the next 15 years. Just look at the Kitco data, see for yourself. </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">To be sure, many low-information "gold investors" still don't realize this. They witnessed the January 1980 High as 'the Top, Missed!' Forever after, these so-called "investors" conceptually billed <i><font face="Verdana">any sale off the illusory Death Spike </font></i>as a realized loss. That's loser (il)logic, an absurd but all-too-common misunderstanding, a peculiar form of Buyer's Regret typical to low-information "investors." Is this really so counterintuitive? Quote Beanie Baby Investors, but also examine their financial statements very carefully.</font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">Their wrongness cannot be overemphasized: in all likelihood, these folks did NOT lose money on the POG declining between their Buy/Sell periods, <b><font face="Verdana">unless they sold en masse on a smaller number of Loss Dates. </font></b>Do you have any evidence to support that assertion, or reasons when/where/why these purported "Lemming Events" occurred? I doubt it. So it's otherwise wild speculation; the burden of proof really is on these imagined 'Gold Losers' <i><font face="Verdana">to show their Losses with receipts, please</font></i>!</font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">I will grant it's possible some Gold holders initially paid very high premiums for bullion/coin and then sold at extraordinary discount for different reasons. That (especially <b><font face="Verdana">poor trade</font></b>) is something else, we should agree, and also remains mere speculation. The fundamental issue here is low-information buyers, misunderstanding what happened, and NOT 'huge Gold Losses' as Paper-Bugs have declared ad nauseum to "prove" Gold is the worst asset class you could possibly own (".... and you should buy my Pets.com stock, buddy!") </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">btw, I think we both agree 'Gold is not a good investment' (I say, because it's NOT an "investment" in the classical sense: no income, dividend, yield, predictable cap app, etc.) but we need not appropriate the Paper Bugs' Lie to make that point. </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">Regards.</font></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1575020, member: 41665"][COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana]medoraman- With all due respect (and I [I][FONT=Verdana]do [/FONT][/I]have the greatest of respect for your opinion) and apart from whatever issue you might have w/ fatima, I too have a long-running argument against Paper Bugs who insist most Gold holders suffered enormous losses in the 1980s and 1990s. That simply was NOT TRUE. Fact is, almost no one (nary a soul!) bought Gold bullion on the Gold High January 21, 1980. People were buying for [I][FONT=Verdana]years [/FONT][/I]before that date (1976-9) also [I]after [/I]the Investor Death Spike. Use those avg prices, instead. In 1979, a very high price, the avg POG was $USD 307./oz. Gold didn't sell off to that price until December 1984. So there were literally [I][FONT=Verdana]thousands of exit points [/FONT][/I](dates) to have sold safely and WITH PROFIT over the next 15 years. Just look at the Kitco data, see for yourself. To be sure, many low-information "gold investors" still don't realize this. They witnessed the January 1980 High as 'the Top, Missed!' Forever after, these so-called "investors" conceptually billed [I][FONT=Verdana]any sale off the illusory Death Spike [/FONT][/I]as a realized loss. That's loser (il)logic, an absurd but all-too-common misunderstanding, a peculiar form of Buyer's Regret typical to low-information "investors." Is this really so counterintuitive? Quote Beanie Baby Investors, but also examine their financial statements very carefully. Their wrongness cannot be overemphasized: in all likelihood, these folks did NOT lose money on the POG declining between their Buy/Sell periods, [B][FONT=Verdana]unless they sold en masse on a smaller number of Loss Dates. [/FONT][/B]Do you have any evidence to support that assertion, or reasons when/where/why these purported "Lemming Events" occurred? I doubt it. So it's otherwise wild speculation; the burden of proof really is on these imagined 'Gold Losers' [I][FONT=Verdana]to show their Losses with receipts, please[/FONT][/I]! I will grant it's possible some Gold holders initially paid very high premiums for bullion/coin and then sold at extraordinary discount for different reasons. That (especially [B][FONT=Verdana]poor trade[/FONT][/B]) is something else, we should agree, and also remains mere speculation. The fundamental issue here is low-information buyers, misunderstanding what happened, and NOT 'huge Gold Losses' as Paper-Bugs have declared ad nauseum to "prove" Gold is the worst asset class you could possibly own (".... and you should buy my Pets.com stock, buddy!") btw, I think we both agree 'Gold is not a good investment' (I say, because it's NOT an "investment" in the classical sense: no income, dividend, yield, predictable cap app, etc.) but we need not appropriate the Paper Bugs' Lie to make that point. Regards.[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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