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<p>[QUOTE="tulipone, post: 2078707, member: 71656"]Sorry OP - one last attempt.</p><p><br /></p><p>Any reputable business doesn't really get involved with cash / under the table deals anymore. Lets agree to ignore that and stuff you chance upon at bootsales etc</p><p><br /></p><p>Business in the UK MUST register for VAT when they turn over in excess of £81,000 PA of VAT taxable turnover but can register voluntarily far below this. Actually £81k of turnover is pretty low for any business - if it were your only income for the year you'd be likely far lower than the minimum wage. Being registered for VAT means that you can offset VAT paid against VAT charged. If a business charges VAT then the customer pays the business and the business pays the tax man. The VAT on the product the business buys to sell is thereby nullified. If you buy from Atkinsons Bullion / BullionByPost or other such businesses, this is their model with the VAT charged in addition to the basic cost.</p><p><br /></p><p>If the business is not registered for VAT then they pay for the item + VAT and then absorb that charge until they sell the item to you. You still pay the VAT but it is in effect hidden and not split down on your receipt. Buying from a small eBay distributor is likely to be this model. Unless they avoided the tax somehow, they are selling a secondhand item (that probably once had VAT charged on it) or the tax is absorbed into the cost price and passed on to you when you buy it.</p><p><br /></p><p>So you bought coins from The Mint. I could go to a bank and buy a £1 coin for £1 - no VAT. You bought a £20 for £20. Not really sure what you point is? That you bought a £20 face coin this about 1/2oz of silver (spot price about £5)? </p><p><br /></p><p>I understand the US model to be far simpler. You buy something, you pay state / city sales tax unless the state doesn't require it - Delaware / New Hampshire etc.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="tulipone, post: 2078707, member: 71656"]Sorry OP - one last attempt. Any reputable business doesn't really get involved with cash / under the table deals anymore. Lets agree to ignore that and stuff you chance upon at bootsales etc Business in the UK MUST register for VAT when they turn over in excess of £81,000 PA of VAT taxable turnover but can register voluntarily far below this. Actually £81k of turnover is pretty low for any business - if it were your only income for the year you'd be likely far lower than the minimum wage. Being registered for VAT means that you can offset VAT paid against VAT charged. If a business charges VAT then the customer pays the business and the business pays the tax man. The VAT on the product the business buys to sell is thereby nullified. If you buy from Atkinsons Bullion / BullionByPost or other such businesses, this is their model with the VAT charged in addition to the basic cost. If the business is not registered for VAT then they pay for the item + VAT and then absorb that charge until they sell the item to you. You still pay the VAT but it is in effect hidden and not split down on your receipt. Buying from a small eBay distributor is likely to be this model. Unless they avoided the tax somehow, they are selling a secondhand item (that probably once had VAT charged on it) or the tax is absorbed into the cost price and passed on to you when you buy it. So you bought coins from The Mint. I could go to a bank and buy a £1 coin for £1 - no VAT. You bought a £20 for £20. Not really sure what you point is? That you bought a £20 face coin this about 1/2oz of silver (spot price about £5)? I understand the US model to be far simpler. You buy something, you pay state / city sales tax unless the state doesn't require it - Delaware / New Hampshire etc.[/QUOTE]
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