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<p>[QUOTE="Clawcoins, post: 2805927, member: 77814"]Too much to write right now.</p><p>But to me there is not a direct inverse relationship. Though there is an short term inverse correlation when the economy is "stable". Let's just look at the last 10 years for an instance of Gold vs DOW</p><p>[ATTACH=full]655449[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]655450[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>In the 2008 timeframe everything went into stagnation.</p><p>No one was buying anything to put generically.</p><p>PMs down, stocks down, car sales down, jobs way down, etc etc.</p><p>Cash was king as it was the common denominator that people wanted .. if they had a job.</p><p><br /></p><p>As the economy started coming back, money started flowing again, people started investing again it perked up not only the stock market but also the PM market.</p><p><br /></p><p>In this case they were directly correlated.</p><p>Of course we had gold hoarding by China and India too, becoming more globalized.</p><p><br /></p><p>Shocks such as one country who gets most of their silver from Mexico stating there's going to be a 20% import tax ... a sudden jump in Silver.</p><p><br /></p><p>"safe haven" is a normal nonmenclature for PMs. It's a place to put one's money without losing (or gaining) much. Many investment mgrs for some reason do not want people in cash (because they make no money on it) so they always have to move investments somewhere. I always convert stuff in waiting into cash .. I never lose a dollar that way in price variations and fees.</p><p><br /></p><p>But I'll delve more into specific examples such as:</p><p>GE dividend paying stock in a drip vs pure stock appreciation such as FB or SQ.</p><p>Bond Funds such as a Fidelity FNMIX which gives monthly dividends which is a low price per share vs a high price per share example vs Nasdaq index, or S&P index.</p><p>Corporate Bonds such as from Coca-Cola paying 7.5% or more.</p><p>and I looked into PM ETFs before but decided against it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Of course these would be specific examples and there are winners, losers and stagnate stocks, funds, etc out there.</p><p><br /></p><p>Of course, what would happen if the supply chain were to partially shut down ==> <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-24/acacia-gets-190-billion-tax-bill-it-would-take-centuries-to-pay" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-24/acacia-gets-190-billion-tax-bill-it-would-take-centuries-to-pay" rel="nofollow">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-24/acacia-gets-190-billion-tax-bill-it-would-take-centuries-to-pay</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Clawcoins, post: 2805927, member: 77814"]Too much to write right now. But to me there is not a direct inverse relationship. Though there is an short term inverse correlation when the economy is "stable". Let's just look at the last 10 years for an instance of Gold vs DOW [ATTACH=full]655449[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]655450[/ATTACH] In the 2008 timeframe everything went into stagnation. No one was buying anything to put generically. PMs down, stocks down, car sales down, jobs way down, etc etc. Cash was king as it was the common denominator that people wanted .. if they had a job. As the economy started coming back, money started flowing again, people started investing again it perked up not only the stock market but also the PM market. In this case they were directly correlated. Of course we had gold hoarding by China and India too, becoming more globalized. Shocks such as one country who gets most of their silver from Mexico stating there's going to be a 20% import tax ... a sudden jump in Silver. "safe haven" is a normal nonmenclature for PMs. It's a place to put one's money without losing (or gaining) much. Many investment mgrs for some reason do not want people in cash (because they make no money on it) so they always have to move investments somewhere. I always convert stuff in waiting into cash .. I never lose a dollar that way in price variations and fees. But I'll delve more into specific examples such as: GE dividend paying stock in a drip vs pure stock appreciation such as FB or SQ. Bond Funds such as a Fidelity FNMIX which gives monthly dividends which is a low price per share vs a high price per share example vs Nasdaq index, or S&P index. Corporate Bonds such as from Coca-Cola paying 7.5% or more. and I looked into PM ETFs before but decided against it. Of course these would be specific examples and there are winners, losers and stagnate stocks, funds, etc out there. Of course, what would happen if the supply chain were to partially shut down ==> [url]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-24/acacia-gets-190-billion-tax-bill-it-would-take-centuries-to-pay[/url][/QUOTE]
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