PCGS Knows All.... Apparently

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Evan8, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. JayF

    JayF Active Member

    I think you missed the whole point of my comment to jtlee.
     
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  3. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    Ripping a bill in half is not comparing apples to apples. Trying to spend a 50% clipped planchet would be closer to your analogy. A better comparison to the OP coin is to take a $20.00 bill that had an offset cut, so that only half of the design was present. The OP's coin has the entire planchet still surviving, only part of the design was struck into it. But as @baseball21 said, you only need 60% of a bill to spend it. The other 40% is then worthless and the remaining 60% can be turned in to any bank at face value.

    Also, the Mint does not issue currency, the Bureau of Engraving and Printing does through the Federal Reserve Banking System. The US Mint only strikes coins and medals.
     
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  4. JayF

    JayF Active Member

    A bill is easier to use as an example because it's readily available to you than a clipped planchet. If you need 60% of a bill for you to be able to spend it, what percent of a coin is needed for you to be able to spend it? If it's more than 5%...
     
  5. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    I understand both sides of the argument, I just don't see how a blank planchet and a perfectly struck coin can have the same grade.
     
  6. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I'm not getting sucked into this petty argument anymore. This has grown old and tired and not worth my energy. You know your right and I know I'm right, no amount of arguing will persuade the other.
     
  7. JayF

    JayF Active Member

    I wonder when it became "petty"...but ok.
     
  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

  9. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

  10. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    To follow this tangent, how far off-center does a strike have to be to cease being a coin? Or how big of a clip? I’ve seen seen coins that have had serious (30-50%) clips/off-center strikes and yet they clearly circulated for a while. I’m sure some cents with 99% off-center strikes have circulated to some degree.

    If it was struck/cast by an authority for use as money and was monetized, then for all intents and purposes it is a “coin”. A dime struck on a nail was never monetized, thus it is not a coin. A dime struck off-center, put into a mint bag, and monetized is a coin.
     
  11. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Coin or nah? It has obviously circulated.

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  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Coin. I' d accept it as payment.
     
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  13. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Oopsie. Just got this one in. An NGC just to be fair and balanced. Apparently the error holder makes it worth more than 10 times what it's worth in real life...
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    Last edited: Jun 22, 2018
  14. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Maybe they thought it was struck in silver :hilarious:
     
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    C-B-D Well-Known Member

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